Jude 2

All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players: They have their exits and their entrances; And one man in his time plays many parts,… William Shakespeare - "As You Like IT" Lately I have been wrestling with a series of very long, detailed, emails of complaint. They pretty much ce...

I dont pastor anymore but I always paid on the gross without taking out expense first. Me thinks me smells the reincarnation of THE RaZeR.... 8) If I'm wrong... just ignore me "Mumbles-Ray"... :D No it was not The RAzEr who wrote that! For many years I did take out expenses. The last ten years or s...

I first "worked" in camp when I was 6, I am 40 now and I have worked in some way or another in at least one camp every year. My Uncle was the Director so he let me "work" all I did all day was go around the camp and get the trash and help in the kitchen. If it had not been for my Uncle keeping me w...

You are rigth! I started going to camp at age 6. I am 55 so that was 49 years ago. i was first a cabin Counselor at 14. Then, I worked 2 or 3 weeks a year for about 36 years. I was kitchhen, to fun time to COordinator. Camp is a great ministry. There are many businesses which will help send kids to ...

Your Dad and I spent about thirty minutes or so talking together at the assembly. This was very memorable to me, especially since I only spent about two hours there. He seemed to be strong. I was thankful to see him that way. I liked your Dad alot. He was a strenght to me in a time when I needed str...

I did not know your father had wnt to heaven. he was a man which will be missed here on Earth. may god bless all of you,

Ray

I notice it's the Pastors and spouses of small churches with small church mentality that are for the Communist way of paying the Pastors. (Equal for all.) Let's hear from the Pastor of a medium or large congregation (500+) and see what s/he has to say. You might be on the wrong board to here from su...

Communism. Ray writes, What do you want? Capitalism? what about a program where if one member (PASTOR?) suffer, all members (Pastors?) suffer with him. Capitalism is not a New Testament concept, is it? In the early Church those who had property sold it and laid it at the feet of the Apostles, and th...

This is good stuff. One thing my dad taught me when I entered the ministry. He said, "If you are going to be a preacher, pay you bills." He asked me to promise him. I did, and I did. A sociological surveyI read was made among lending institution. They rated 25 professions as to how the lenders rated...

you have to excuse THE RAzEr. I have kept him caged for a while. He just wanted to show the absurdity by which these pastoral appoints were made for a long, long time. The thoughts that it is the person of pastor who makes or breaks a church, have been with us for a long time. I hear it even in this...

Is it a 'base, amount or is it a suggested amount. I think it is one of those "if funds are availiable" type things. Most pastors in the COGOP do not recieve what is the "base" amount. Yet, such things as you have mentioned is past by an assembly which is supposed to represent them also. I am not sa...

You are VERY RIGHT in that it doesn't matter if you have 10 members or 150 members, the job is the same. That's not what he said. He said: A man or woman pastoring a church with 200 does not have to work as hard as one pastoring forty. Ray writes, I said this. However, the next sentence and the fol...

I am no longer a Pastor. I was for 32 years and i was basically full time for 27 years. In this time , I worked with in the COGOP system. I obeyed the State Overseers. I spent many years in "limit" paying churches. I pastored also for $75-125 a month. I seen times of growth and times when it was mea...

Don't CUT anything. I for one do not even won't to consider, much less impune Mike's "hinesty". Nor do we wish anyone else to do so. Gary, I am hoping that was a typo. But what the ever. Trying to SEVER the world from missed interpretations. I am******************************************************...