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Postby Tim Elston » January 16th, 2009, 4:18 pm

Full Quiver wrote:American courts are for American citizens. Where does the constitution say to gather criminals or suspected criminals from other lands and bring them here for justice?


In war, Prisoner of War camps are what is appropriate. They fall under the jurisdiction of military and international law. For international criminals against the United States, I would imagine that the detention of someone like Manuel Noriega would be appropriate. Wasn't he imprisoned in Florida or somewhere stateside? I don't think it is appropriate to establish a lawless zone to keep prisoners of any kind in. As Guantanamo indicates, it leads to lawless abuse. And, yes, holding prisoners indefinitely without charge or legal representation is abuse.
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Postby Dr. Ron » January 17th, 2009, 11:17 am

I have the answer to it all,.

When captured they should be given the option to join us in the fight against Radical Islam...which is all of Islam.

If they refuse, they should sumarily shot.

I am so sick of all this coddling of the "poor innocents". Watch one beheading on youtube, and then feel all warm inside toward them.

If they are not soldiers of hate, they should understand the change of loyalties for their lives. Besides, they will have gainful employment and not be a drain on our tax dollars.

I don't hate people , I hate war. But somewhere all this bleeding heart stuff has to take it's rightful place in our world.

Example.....you don't work, you don't eat Scriptural, ethecal, moral, honest.

If you kill (willfully) you will be killed.

If you rob, you will work to repay your debt.

It's all so simple.....why make it all complicated........
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Postby Tim Elston » January 17th, 2009, 11:54 am

Dr. Ron wrote:When captured they should be given the option to join us in the fight against Radical Islam...which is all of Islam.


Not all Muslims are radical Islamists. Your statement is bigoted.

If they refuse, they should sumarily shot.


Taken with the previous statement, this statement means that captured Muslims should be summarily shot if they don't fight against Islam. This is the worst kind of bigotry I have seen expressed in a while. Does your son Reggie feel the same way that you do about murdering Muslims?
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Postby Gerald Creasy » January 17th, 2009, 11:58 am

How long do we have to put up with this egocentric narcisicist as he masturbates his intellect and insults those that are not impressed??

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Postby Tim Elston » January 17th, 2009, 12:02 pm

Gerald Creasy wrote:How long do we have to put up with this egocentric narcisicist as he masturbates his intellect and insults those that are not impressed??


Look, even though Ron expressed the worst kind of murderous bigotry we've seen here in a while, I think he should be allowed to stay.
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Postby Full Quiver » January 17th, 2009, 12:08 pm

We have "tried" before to allow them to fight with us and they always turn against us again. We aided them against the Russians and yet 20-30 years later we are fighting them ourselves. IF we had allowed the Soviets to conquer Afghanistan they may have done some of this dirty work for us.

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Postby Tim Elston » January 17th, 2009, 12:18 pm

Full Quiver wrote:We have "tried" before to allow them to fight with us and they always turn against us again. We aided them against the Russians and yet 20-30 years later we are fighting them ourselves. IF we had allowed the Soviets to conquer Afghanistan they may have done some of this dirty work for us.


There are a lot of tribes in Afghanistan and many of them both fight against the Taliban and fought against the Soviets. Our problem is primarily with the Taliban in Pashtunistan, in the region on both sides of the Afghanistan/Pakistan border. Many of the fighters who fought the Soviets are our current allies in Afghanistan now. They don't like the Taliban.
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Postby Gerald Creasy » January 17th, 2009, 12:27 pm

Tim Elston wrote:
Gerald Creasy wrote:How long do we have to put up with this egocentric narcisicist as he masturbates his intellect and insults those that are not impressed??


Look, even though Ron expressed the worst kind of murderous bigotry we've seen here in a while, I think he should be allowed to stay.


Oh Clever :roll:

But what about you're bigotry which we have crammed down our throats on a daily basis??

I'm sick of hearing how nobody knows anything but you.

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Postby Tim Elston » January 17th, 2009, 12:44 pm

Gerald Creasy wrote:I'm sick of hearing how nobody knows anything but you.


I assume you're just fine with summarily executing captured Muslims who don't join us in our "fight against Radical Islam...which is all of Islam."
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Postby Steve » January 17th, 2009, 1:13 pm

Tim Elston wrote:I assume you're just fine with summarily executing captured Muslims who don't join us in our "fight against Radical Islam...which is all of Islam."


HOLY COW!!! What a GREAT idea!!! I gotta go call my Congressman!

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Postby Dr. Ron » January 17th, 2009, 1:16 pm

TIM , I am constantly amazed by your intellectual stupidity.

If you did not see my sarcasm in that post, then you are an absolute idiot.

I am not a bigot.....not even and educated, intellectual, christian, bigot.....why I even love you....you concieted, eggheaded, libertarian.

My Lord, someone get this man something to calm him down.

I know full well all Muslims are not radical any more than all christians are not "abortion clinic bombers". You know I know that.

I do believe that Islam is an evil religion.....that goes without saying and even an atheist will agree to that. Any religion that espouses the killing of those who will not convert is evil. Don't tell me you didn't see any of this in my sarcastic post.

Geeez Louise......get a grip.....Will someone find this man a woman....he is a mess.
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Postby Gerald Creasy » January 17th, 2009, 1:25 pm

Tim Elston wrote:I ass..........



Stop right there! That sums it all up!

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Postby Tim Elston » January 17th, 2009, 2:09 pm

Dr. Ron wrote:I know full well all Muslims are not radical any more than all christians are not "abortion clinic bombers".


Good to hear that from you, Ron. Now let's work on Steve.
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