New Huckabee video

[MrDanger]

With that being said, Mr. Huckabee is my only choice at the moment. He is a good moral man, and I agree with most of his stands on the issues. Go to his website and click on the issues link.

And yet, to me, that is the problem. Every time, on here and with others I talk to, their first response is what his website says. So I put that to the test. Guess what? Hillary is going to be a great president. Go to her website. I haven't checked it in two weeks, but before school was out, we checked it all the time. She had great defenses of all her policies and could explain away inconsistencies. So therefore, we must all vote for Hillary....because her website says she is the best candidate.

Dajudge hit it right. Look at what happened under their watch. Not what they say happened under their watch. Even good Baptist ministers are sometimes willing to say what it takes to get elected.

[Full Quiver]

Even good Baptist ministers are sometimes willing to say what it takes to get elected.

Yeah, like I have a theology degree.

[one love]

Danny,


Could you tell me how he lied about that? I asked this earlier and didnt see a response. I am wondering are you saying he has no degree or that it is some other religous degree. Just curious.
Thank you

[pastorables]

Danny,


Could you tell me how he lied about that? I asked this earlier and didnt see a response. I am wondering are you saying he has no degree or that it is some other religous degree. Just curious.
Thank you

He actually overstated his degree. I don't think he intentionally lied about it.

Read this excerpted interview from Christian Broadcasting Network:

(Interview with Mike Huckabee)

Huckabee - "I have a bachelor of arts in religion and a minor in communications in my undergraduate work. And then I have 46 hours on a master's degree at Southwestern Theology Seminary. So, my degree as a theological degree is at the college level and then 46 hours toward a masters -- three years of study of New Testament Greek, and then the rest of it, all in Seminary was theological studies, but my degree was actually in religion."


I think it's a hard sell to say Mike Huckabee PURPOSELY lied. He clearly overstated it but it's not like his education credentials aren't public knowledge so it would be simply stupid to lie when the record is out there. Huckabee seems smarter than that. Having said that, Huckabee's pull is the fact that people see him as genuine.

Stories like this hurt that image.

The point here is that Huckabee is learning a hard lesson. When you run for President, everything, and I mean everything is scrutinized. Every word is dissected. Is it fair? Probably not but it comes with the territory.

[Full Quiver]

Hey Kevin, He has a degree in religion, whatever that encompasses. He does not have a theology degree. There is a difference. My associate pastor has a degree in theology but not a degree in religion. Actually Howie has a masters in theology. Huckabee knows what kind of degree he has, knows full well that he dropped out of the theology degree program he was enrolled in, and made a political move when he said he was the only GOP candidate that had a degree in theology. He is playing the emotions of the Chrisitan evangelicals. He saw Bush do it and succeed and feels he can as well. He is being less than honest and tried to convey to the public that he had a degree that he doesn't have. To some Christians having such a degree means he is somebody special in the kingdom. Lot's of churches will not hire a pastor that does not have such a degree. It's a status thing for some Christians. I'm not knocking the education but the point is he doesn't have the education but wants the glory, if there is any, of having the education.
If applying for a job I said I have an electrical engineering degree then I would be falsifying my records, stretching the truth, portraying myself as someone I am not. If caught doing this I would be automatically disqualified as a candidate for the job in which i was applying. Mike Huckabee is interviewing for a job. We are part of that process and will be either hiring him or not hiring him. The powers that be in the election process know what his background is but we as the public must dig deep to find all this out. He deliberately tried to deceive the public, has not apologized for it, but merely tried to justify what he said.
We need a leader not a politician. If Huck is good enough to be President then so are so many other people. Integrity must be the central platform. His ad, the one he wasn't going to release because he is above such negativity, says that if Romney is dishonest to achieve the job then he will be dishonest on the job. Huckabee needs to think about this because he is using dishonesty to try to buy votes.
I'd rather have someone in office that I know will lie to me and on what subjects they will lie to me about instead of someone that will lie to me without me knowing and then we find out way too late.

[SBW]

All,
I am just saying that from the list of candidates, on both sides, Huckabee is where I am at right now. If it is between Huck and any current Dem....Huck gets my vote.

DaJudge,
I have been a Fred man since way before he announced.....but it looks like he has a snowball's chance. I think this was debated on here a while back....seems like in today's world you have to choose the lesser of evils if you are going to vote......I don't really want to vote for any of these characters, but we must do our civic duty and vote.

MrDanger,
Naaa.....Hillary wouldn't be a good president no matter what her website says.

[pastorables]

So I put that to the test. Guess what? Hillary is going to be a great president. Go to her website. I haven't checked it in two weeks, but before school was out, we checked it all the time. She had great defenses of all her policies and could explain away inconsistencies. So therefore, we must all vote for Hillary....because her website says she is the best candidate.

I actually think Hillary could be a good president, but she would not be. Does that make any sense?

pa

[turbotim]

And yet, to me, that is the problem. Every time, on here and with others I talk to, their first response is what his website says. So I put that to the test. Guess what? Hillary is going to be a great president. Go to her website. I haven't checked it in two weeks, but before school was out, we checked it all the time. She had great defenses of all her policies and could explain away inconsistencies. So therefore, we must all vote for Hillary....because her website says she is the best candidate.

Wow Danger.... With all these post here lately, you are getting grumpy in your old age.... Just kidding....

I do get your point Jeff. I ain't votin for Hillary no matter what her website says!!!

[SBW]

pastorables,
I understand your statement and I agree with it. If Hillary was a good conservative republican, I think she would be a good strong president. Maybe one of the best?

Did I say that?

[DaJudge]

DaJudge,
I have been a Fred man since way before he announced.....but it looks like he has a snowball's chance. I think this was debated on here a while back....seems like in today's world you have to choose the lesser of evils if you are going to vote......I don't really want to vote for any of these characters, but we must do our civic duty and vote.

Using that logic, I would support Romney over Huckabee, because quite honestly, I think Huck has a snowballs chance of winning the general election. I know alot of evangelicals like him, but we are a small minority. Frankly, I think he creeps out alot of non-evangelicals.

[pastorables]

Using that logic, I would support Romney over Huckabee, because quite honestly, I think Huck has a snowballs chance of winning the general election. I know alot of evangelicals like him, but we are a small minority. Frankly, I think he creeps out alot of non-evangelicals.

If your logic is correct, you have no worries. Huckabee cannot win the Republican nomination from the support of evangelicals alone. He also needs farmers, fishermen, females, and felons.

pa

[DaJudge]

Huckabee cannot win the Republican nomination from the support of evangelicals alone. He also needs farmers, fishermen, females, and felons.

pa

The felons vote Democrat.

[MrDanger]

Wow Danger.... With all these post here lately, you are getting grumpy in your old age.... Just kidding....

Somebody has to do Vande's job since he is on the meds.

[Steve]

Gov. Huckabee also opposed a 2001 bill requiring proof of citizenship to vote, and he opposed a federal roundup of illegal immigrants from his state in 2005, calling those who supported such a thing "racists." He also had the audacity to compare the attempt by illegal immigrants to evade the law to the struggle against slavery. "One of the great challenges facing us," Huckabee said, "is that we do not commit the same mistakes with our growing Hispanic population that we did with African-Americans 150 years ago ... I think, frankly, the Lord is giving us a second chance to do better than we did before."

independent enough?

Sure, this one is an independent opinion, but as the story itself says, "Huckabee admits that if voters are looking for the toughest guy on illegal immigration, he's not their man." If that's your big issue, then look somewhere else....might I recommend Tancredo....oh, wait....I guess you have to vote for Duncan Hunter.

his score on immigration

There we are back to the Tancredo....oh, wait....I guess you have to vote for Duncan Hunter thing.

The danger is a serious contender for the nomination who passes the litmus test of social conservatives on abortion, gay marriage and gun control but is far removed from the conservative-libertarian model of Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan.

Sorry, but Bob Novak is NOT gonna tell me who to vote for!

$5.25 per day bed tax on nursing home patients

OK, you're kidding with this one, right? Independent? C'mon, FQ, do your homework! The Club for Growth is NOT independent. I wouldn't take their "white paper" to the outhouse to read, or to use for OTHER things....

As far as his record goes when offering clemency goes.....Whitewater figure David Hale, a government witness in the trial that forced Gov. Jim Guy Tucker's resignation and let Huckabee ascend to the office, was pardoned after being sentenced to 21 days in a state insurance case. Huckabee complained it would cost too much to hold him. The price tag: $1,200.

Oh, NOW I get it! He BOUGHT the Governorship of Arkansas! How could I have been so BLIND! As of now, I am voting for Tancredo....oh wait, Duncan Hunter. HE is a SHOE IN for president. After all, he's tough on immigration!

When asked what the explanation for his rising in the polls was....."There's only one explanation for it, and it's not a human one. It's the same power that helped a little boy with two fish and five loaves feed a crowd of 5,000 people and that's the only way that our campaign could be doing what it's doing.

And I'm not being facetious nor am I trying to be trite. There literally are thousands of people across who are praying that a little will become much and it has, and it defies all explanation. It has confounded the pundits, and I'm enjoying every minute of their trying to figure it out. And until they look at it from a just experience beyond human, they'll never figure it out. And that's probably just as well. That's honestly why its happening."


I added the last quote because we usually cringe when folks portray themselves as God's man for the hour. I suppose some do not though.

You know, you are right. How could anyone EVER be so STUPID as to think that God could have anything to do with the history of this country? Those idiots who thing our country even being here is because of Providence are just foolish, unlearned BUFFOONS! Everyone knows that our country is here because of political evolution.

Give it up, FQ. I have personally weighed ALL the options and information and have thrown my lot with Huckabee. I know you haven't (but I predict you will have a decision to make about that soon enough) and that is fine. It is your right, to not decide until "the process is over" just as it is my right to decide now. I may change my mind about the whole thing before it is over, who knows, but for now, I see NOTHING that is so big that would make me do so.

Tell ya what, when Huck wins the nomination, I have a bumper sticker I will mail you!

[Full Quiver]

Steve, Huckabee himself said that immigration is the number one issue he is confronted with while campaigning. If he does not change his views he will not be elected. His views on immigration are no different than the current president's views.