Todd Bentley - Florida Revival

[stevenson]

God's Word doesn't return void. And so if people can hear the voice of God thru all tht junk they can be honestly saved. What Bentley and the the rest of these phonies due is take the truth of God's Word and then twist it to suit their own needs. So I believe that people can honestly be saved under these ministries but that if they grow at all spiritual they should see the truth and leave these ministries.

Remember if God can talk thru a donkey surely he can use a person like Bentley. Haha!

[crispfin]

If you have Direct TV you can catch the revival on GodTV. It's on several times a day. I haven't been impressed as of yet.

Bingo, I caught it again last night. Whole lot of bad singing . . .

[Mister Ed]

And if Satan can talk through a snake he can.....................


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[Gerald Creasy]

Well I heard this guy speaking about how he was sitting in a room and Jesus stepped out of heaven so he could see him.

Eyes like Bambi.
Thick curly hair down to his shoulders.
He saw ten rainbows.
And the color pink.
And rivers of oil.

Rainbows and Pink, hmm.

What kind of crowd is he trying to appeal to?

[secretary]

God have mercy on all these thousands of deceived people.

[pastorables]

Well, perhaps I need to ask forgiveness. I watched some of the revival in Lakeland with Todd Bentley and was totally turned off. Thought I felt all kind of red flags go up within me. Then I watched some more last night and on of the new reporters, (Melanie Brroks) brom Tampbay TV Channel 10 was there for a news story. She went up on stage , he prayed and prophesied over her. She fell out. They got her up and she fell out again. This was to be aired on secular TV last night. Of course, we could not get it here. I guess I'm just confused. I want to see a GENUINE move of God with signs and wonders and then can't help but doubt this man and this revival is of God.

I watched about one hour of the Revival. I was very moved by the Spirit of the Revival itself and I believe true miracles were indeed taking place for some. On the other hand, Evangelist Bentley made some statements that I could not personally support. If Christ is preached and lives are being touched is the main thing.

pa

[dolfan]

I guess I'm just confused.

Well, we know who doesn't try to confuse folks....

I want to see a GENUINE move of God with signs and wonders and then can't help but doubt this man and this revival is of God.

1. You don't need signs and wonders. Those are for unbelievers.
2. If you have that kind of doubt, just forget it and move on. Think back on the moments when you had crises of faith, especially the very first ones when you started to believe, started thinking that the whole Jesus thing was for real. Did you doubt that sense? Maybe you doubted the proposition that He died for you, rose again, all that. But did you doubt the utter "otherness", the complete difference, of the sense that something new and maybe unique was happening??? Probably not. So, my guess, and this is just me, but my guess is that if you doubt the sense you're getting based on what you know, have learned, etc., as a believer, then it is more likely than not a safe bet that, whether or not he is "of God", what he says is not "for you", and therefore, it is probably a waste of your time and energy. Now, we've encountered several weapons of the enemy here, haven't we? Doubt, seeking signs in a futile search for meaning, and confusion. Seems simple enough to me ..... run, don't walk, 180 degrees away.

[Pastor Gary]

In a post on another message board, it was reported that:

"I saw this article today about the current Lakeland "Revival" and a possible connection to William Branham. To make a long story short, the evangelist (Todd Brantley) said that an angel appeared to him before the revival started and told him what was going to happen. After Brantley told prophet Bob Jones, this, Jones told him that the angel's name was "Winds of Change" and that this was the same angel that visited Branham in the 1940's. You can see the story here:
http://dsmith77.wordpress.com/2008/04/2 ... d-revival/

I was trying not to form a strong opinion about this 'revival' too quickly, but if it's validity is based on angelic visitations, and especially angels that spoke to Branham, I have some serious reservations!"

[pastorables]

I was trying not to form a strong opinion about this 'revival' too quickly, but if it's validity is based on angelic visitations, and especially angels that spoke to Branham, I have some serious reservations!"

Pastor Gary,

Are your reservations due to the Branham connection or "angels that speak to ministers"?

pa

[Pastor Gary]

I was trying not to form a strong opinion about this 'revival' too quickly, but if it's validity is based on angelic visitations, and especially angels that spoke to Branham, I have some serious reservations!"

Pastor Gary,

Are your reservations due to the Branham connection or "angels that speak to ministers"?

Primarily the Branham connection.

[Gerald Creasy]

Branham was a very scary individual.

Some Branhamites still gather expecting him to raise from the dead. There is a large collection of them across the river from Louisville in Jeffersonville, In.

I believe there was something very demonic going on with him.

[pastorables]

Primarily the Branham connection.

I don't really know enough about Branham to respond, however, I do believe in "visiting angels". It happened in the New Testament, and I believe it happens today. I know at least one minister personally who was visited by an angel, and I understand that D. H. Queener was visited on multiple occasions.

pa

[Gerald Creasy]

From the Dictionary of Pentecostal and Charismatic movements:

"Branham proclaimed himself the angel of Revelation 3:14 and 10:7 and prophesied that by 1977 all denominations would be consumed by the World Council of Churches under the control of the Roman Catholics, that the Rapture would take place, and that the world would be destroyed. He died in 1965, but many of his followers expected him to be resurrected, some believing him to be God, others believing him to be virgin-born.

Branham's influence has continued in many churches where his prophecies are considered to be divinely inspired. His teaching on the power of the spoken word has been a characteristic of later revivalists. Kenneth Hagin identifies Branham as a prophet. "

AND

His doctrine of the "serpent's seed" taught that Eve's sin involved sexual relations with the serpent. Some humans are descended from the serpent's seed and are destined for hell, which is not eternal, however. The seed of God, i.e., those who receive Branham's teaching, are predestined to become the Bride of Christ. There are still others who possess free will and who may be saved out of the denominational churches, but they must suffer through the Great Tribulation.

If Bentley has this "angel" people need to run.

[pastorables]

Whew! I just read up on Branham on Wikipedia. He was indeed an interesting character. One section shares how that Branham could "read the thoughts" of individuals who came for prayer. I don't remember that one being included in the gifts of the Spirit.

Here is a photo of Branham with a reported "pillar of fire" over his head.

[Gerald Creasy]

My mom actually went to see him once; of course she's a TBN junkie now so.....