Man sues church after falling out in the Spirit

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Postby MacUser » June 10th, 2008, 7:40 am

Concerning Physical Side Effects:

We had a huge out pouring for several weeks in the early 90s and I was given a double portion ( hard to explain ) to the point that it hurt AND hurt much afterwards. Fetal position stuff.

On one of the last days of it.. I refused to join in, held back because of the physical side effects.. BUT the Lord kept after me.. so I said a simple prayer to please take away the harmful side effects and you know what?

He did. Zip zero nadda... but a triple blessing came down.
I learned since that day.. always ASK first, it never hurts. :wink:
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Postby DaJudge » June 10th, 2008, 7:57 am

EagerBeaver wrote:I think this raises a valid point, in the style of Gerald:

Is there Biblical evidence of anyone being slain in the Spirit? And if so, did they ever fall backward?



Heck, MacUser's avatar shows the Mac Guy laying out the PC Guy in the spirit. There's your evidence right there!

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Postby oletimer » June 10th, 2008, 9:29 am

RamboPreacher wrote:


If it really WAS the Holy Spirit, he was being influenced by, and not another spirit, and not his own psychosomatic reactions and emotionalism - then one of two things would have happened:
1. there would have been a catcher
and 2. It wouldn't matter if there was a catcher.


This one time that I agree with Rambo. Fallers beware, you are on your own. Be real or sit down. I've seen fallers fall and lay there a while, look around, get up and get back in line. Then I've seen some that was trully in the spirit and didn't get up untill God was ready for them to get up. Funny thing about it was there weren't any catchers, didn't need them. Did I mention that you could feel the Spirit and knew that it was real.
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Postby RamboPreacher » June 10th, 2008, 10:16 am

john 18:6 infers falling backward
Acts 9:4 says he fell, and could be backwards, but doesn't say one way or another.

(no catchers)
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Postby dolfan » June 10th, 2008, 10:30 am

Catchers or not, biblically, the guy goes to a pentecostal church and does what every living, breathing pentecostal person in America is accustomed to seeing done, and says in his pleadings that it was "in the spirit", and sues for it?!?

Can you imagine putting on evidence of 100 years of American pentecostal history to demonstrate that catchers are not a guaranteed part of the package? I can't. And, in this church, if they did have a custom of catchers, did fallers take numbers so catchers could be there? Was there a cue that a person is about to fall, so you'd better run catch 'em? This just seems to me to be about the most frivolous lawsuit I've ever heard of, and I mean about as bad as the judge suing over his pants at the dry cleaner.

Does he still go that church? Would he tithe from the insurance money back to the church? :lol: Is this whole thing a collusion by him and the church to get some easy cash???? All kinds of theories could be formed --- but in the end, not much of a case, IMO.
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Postby EagerBeaver » June 10th, 2008, 10:39 am

RamboPreacher wrote:john 18:6 infers falling backward
Acts 9:4 says he fell, and could be backwards, but doesn't say one way or another.

(no catchers)


John 18:6 - Pre-day of Pentecost, does that count?
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Postby Gerald Creasy » June 10th, 2008, 12:46 pm

EagerBeaver wrote:
RamboPreacher wrote:john 18:6 infers falling backward

(no catchers)


John 18:6 - Pre-day of Pentecost, does that count?



I love it. Just love it.

Eisegetical interpretations equate the enemies of Christ, the minions of Satan falling back with a Believer Being blessed.

Only in a Pentecostal mind.

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Postby RamboPreacher » June 10th, 2008, 3:54 pm

Gerald Creasy wrote:
EagerBeaver wrote:
RamboPreacher wrote:john 18:6 infers falling backward

(no catchers)


John 18:6 - Pre-day of Pentecost, does that count?



I love it. Just love it.

Eisegetical interpretations equate the enemies of Christ, the minions of Satan falling back with a Believer Being blessed.

Only in a Pentecostal mind.
hay, nobody said anything about it having to be contextual or otherwise actually correct in theological direction. :)
Thanks, Brent "RamboPreacher" Hoefling

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Postby EagerBeaver » June 10th, 2008, 5:11 pm

RamboPreacher wrote:
Gerald Creasy wrote:
EagerBeaver wrote:
RamboPreacher wrote:john 18:6 infers falling backward

(no catchers)


John 18:6 - Pre-day of Pentecost, does that count?



I love it. Just love it.

Eisegetical interpretations equate the enemies of Christ, the minions of Satan falling back with a Believer Being blessed.

Only in a Pentecostal mind.
hay, nobody said anything about it having to be contextual or otherwise actually correct in theological direction. :)


That's what was implied though. Serious question demands a serious answer and I know I won't get a yes on it because there are none to be had.

Whenever someone in the Bible fell backward, it was usually associated with death or defeat. Falling forward represented submission and humility.
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