Is sexual intercourse sinful?

[oletimer]

irthnvesl:

Did you know Augustine was a gnostic prior to his conversion?

When I read your writings, what I see is gnostic in a different dress. The gnostic tried to belittle Christ and you do to. I hear you talk a good talk and then in the next sentence you are trying to carry us away in a different way. I've read were you spoke of "Holiness" and yet you avacate doing things that are done mostly by the dark side of the world. I seen what drinking does to the mind and soul.

We have better goal in life now then what they had back then. As the Law was all that they had until Christ, for the Law was good for them. Christ is a better because the Law condemed and Christ forgives.

It is my firm belief that a child of God is more giving to lay aside the "dead weights" and try to live as close to the will of God as posible. The things that you advocate are things that have a tendency bring people down both morally and physical If you want to justify anything then you want have any problem doing it, but it want make it right.

irthnvesl Posted:

Gerald Creasy wrote:
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Is sexual intercourse sinful?


I hope so, else I've spent 30 years being uptight for nothing.

See you in hell brother.

See what I mean! I can't speak for Gerald, but don't call me brother because the bible teaches that we are to be brothers in Christ. For the life of me I don't see Christ in you... evidence and words have to match. "See you in hell brother"????????

Real "Intelligent" seek God, His will and ways and not what you can get by with.

I'm not trying to be mean or to harm you, wish you could know the joy that I have found in Christ Jesus as my Lord and savour. Even so God does still love you.

[oletimer]

Gerald Creasy Posted:

Is sexual intercourse sinful?

I hope so, else I've spent 30 years being uptight for nothing.

Gerald it is those hard battles that we fight for the Lord that will make victory so sweet when we stand before the Lord. Keep fighting.

[Russell Roberts]

Brother oletimer,

I really admire your desire to please God. I think that if you look over my posts you won't find one instance where I belittle Jesus Christ. I would never do such a thing. Thanks for reminding me that God loves people like me.

[Kenya]

In certain contexts it is. BUT within that context of marriage it is blessed and sanctioned by God. What would happen though if the church always warned about the dangers of sexual intercourse without ever conveying the joys of sex within a marriage?

What about pain medicine? Is pain medicine evil? I hope not. The appropriate use of pain medicine has relieved untold suffering for millions. What would happen though if, because of the rampant surge in the number of people who abuse prescription pain medicine...what would happen if we simply condemned pain medicine?

Augustine believed that it was sinful to enjoy sex with your wife. Did you know that? Did you know that a large part of Church doctrine developed from Augustine's teaching? How about this. Did you know Augustine was a gnostic prior to his conversion? They believed that material things were evil and spiritual things were good.

This attitude has permeated the Church in a lot of different ways. I recommend that we teach a balanced approach that avoids the heresy of gnosticism. What would this look like? Well, maybe it would be helpful for the attitude of the next generation not to inherit negative attitudes about material creation that we inherited from our forefathers.

Maybe we should actually talk about the favorable aspects of sexual intercourse in marriage. Sure...let's warn about the abuse of one of God's greatest gifts. Could it be that the negative attitude regarding sex within the Church has created countless problems within marriage? Probably.

What I am suggesting is a balanced approach that rejects gnosticism in favor of a scriptural worldview. This applies to a multitude of issues.

One of the problems with the law, I believe, is that it focussed attention on that which was forbidden. Paul said that he would not have known what it means to covet unless the law had forbidden it.

Maybe the antidote to abuse of God's creation is teaching a balanced perspective that neither villifies nor unnecessarily glorifies material creation. Just a thought.

I'm going out on a limb here, and I haven't read his other "controversial" posts yet (to form a preconceived opinion), but I think he makes some valid points. Especially concerning the negative teachings of sex having an effect on marriages. I don't ever remember being taught about the Song of Solomon - only the warped church of Corinth.

Btw, is he here to give Gerald a break or something?

[Dr. Ron]

God sent him here to keep Gerald from going postal.......

I agree with you Kenya.....

[Russell Roberts]

Kenya,

I don't know you but I presume that you are a sister of mine in Christ. I must warn you though that I am a leper. If you know what is good for you, please don't agree with me publicly. I am the great deceiver, the obssessed alcoholic.

[Kenya]

Kenya,

I don't know you but I presume that you are a brother of mine in Christ. I must warn you though that I am a leper. If you know what is good for you, please don't agree with me publicly. I am the great deceiver, the obssessed alcoholic.

I am actually a "sister" in Christ. I can hold my own and have a mind of my own.

[Russell Roberts]

Sorry sister. No offense intended.

[Kenya]

Sorry sister. No offense intended.

It would take a whole lot more than that to offend me. Don't worry about that. And welcome to the board. I'm usually quiet on here because my three teens take over the computer most of the time.