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Postby Tim Elston » November 19th, 2008, 6:49 pm

Full Quiver wrote:Why did he lobby for it? His union backers were and are against it. I hear it every time I go to a Union meeting. He wanted to make deals with the GOP.


At the time, the Democrats had majorities in both the House and Senate. Bill Clinton lobbied for NAFTA against majority opposition in his party because he believed in free trade and globalizing the economy.
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Postby Full Quiver » November 19th, 2008, 6:54 pm

You are correct Tim and one more reason not to believe union and liberal propaganda.

I was but a wee lad back then.
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Postby Tim Elston » November 19th, 2008, 7:07 pm

Full Quiver wrote:You are correct Tim and one more reason not to believe union and liberal propaganda.


I declined union membership when I came to work for the State of Alaska. In theory unions serve a good purpose. Historically they were responsible for turning the tide on abhorent working conditions. Later, though, unions became another power broker, looking out for their own interests over that of the workers they represent. In that respect they are like the Democratic and Republican parties, which are more interested in power than they are in the country.

Liberalism, too, is a mixed bag. At its worst it is as bad as anything I know. At its best it does some good in the world. That's how I feel about conservatism, too. I am most disturbed by neither liberalism nor conservatism, but by the belief that good and evil in the world are divided along party lines.

I was but a wee lad back then.


You must be pretty young. How old are you? I turned thirty the year Clinton was elected. What is your first name? Are you Danny?
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Postby Full Quiver » November 19th, 2008, 7:08 pm

33 years OLD!

I turned 18 in 1993.

Your response leads me to a new thread. Please respond.
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Postby MacUser » November 20th, 2008, 5:08 am

B.O. is inexperienced or basically has no clue.. thus he is relying on failed liberals mentors of the past to somehow work this magical time.

Where is the raw new untapped talent? It looks like same old liberal elites.
Shame.. because he had a great chance for real "Change".. yet all we see is "Same".

( Leaving poor John out ) Do you honestly think Palin would choose washington insiders?
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Postby Full Quiver » November 20th, 2008, 7:57 am

Exactly MacUser. So much for change.
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