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Postby pastorables » December 2nd, 2008, 3:57 pm

DeWayneTN wrote:It was proven in the civil suit. Do you remember that one? He was held liable for those deaths.


That's really irrelevant. You could have had 15 different trials with 200 different jurors and every trial would have produced varying results. I don't know if O.J. did it or not. Only God and O.J. truly know. He very well could be guilty of those murders, but I did not see it proven beyond doubt... which is the way our justice system was created to operate.

My grandfather went to his grave believing that O.J. was innocent, but that's irrelevant to the truth also.

Let me share a true story which challenges me to be very cautious about judging guilt or innocence that doesn't belong to me.

When I was younger, a young lady in our community was raped. She described the vehicle very accurately, the tag on the front of it, and even confirmed the identification of a suspect as the assailant.

The alleged assailant was a family man, and had a perfect alibi. He was at work with witnesses to that fact. :shock: How could this be? This young lady was well respected in the community and had perfectly described the vehicle down to the tag on front, as well as identified this man as the perpetrator of the crime. The community, for the most part, believed the young lady and this hurt the reputation of the man in question.

What happened? A few months later the real assailant was captured, I believe as the result of an attempted rape. He drove the same kind of truck with the same tag, and even resembled the accused. :shock: Nevertheless, the damage was done. A community had made up their mind. This also reminds me of what happened to John and Patsy Ramsey. People made up their minds based upon the way things appeared.

With all that said, I personally can't call O.J. the murderer. I just don't know. I was wrong for believing the girl's testimony of the accused rapist, I was wrong for initially believing that John and Patsy Ramsey could be involved in their daughter's death (although I did believe them innocent well before Boulder exonerated them), and I am determined not to make that kind of erroneous judgment again. I am more comfortable saying, "It is very possible that O.J. killed his wife and Ron Goldman."

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Postby DeWayneTN » December 2nd, 2008, 5:35 pm

I can understand your point and respect that we have different opinions. I am very comfortable in calling O.J. a murderer. I would be much less comfortable calling him an alleged murderer because I think people would look at me as if I referred to the alleged moon landing or the alleged death of Elvis Presley.
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Postby pastorables » December 2nd, 2008, 7:16 pm

DeWayneTN wrote:and respect that we have different opinions.


Ditto. Isn't that what makes America so grand? :)
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Postby Full Quiver » December 3rd, 2008, 5:48 am

Pastorables, I have a question.

Let's say OJ really killed Ron and Nicole. They know, he knows, and God knows for sure. Let's say the court acquitted him, as they did.

Is he a murderer or not?
Just because a court offers one an acquittal does not mean they are not guilty.
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Postby pastorables » December 3rd, 2008, 4:23 pm

Full Quiver wrote:Just because a court offers one an acquittal does not mean they are not guilty.


You are correct, but you miss the point of my postings.

It works the other way also. Innocent people are being released from prisons all the time. I'm just saying that there was not enough evidence/proof for me to know for sure what really happened, so I can't say O.J. is a murderer. I can only say that he is possibly a murderer. It's not for me to decide his guilt or innocence anyway.

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Postby DeWayneTN » December 3rd, 2008, 6:05 pm

I think I've said this before but I'll say it again. Pastorables, I would love to have you on my jury. :D
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Postby pastorables » December 3rd, 2008, 6:42 pm

DeWayneTN wrote:I think I've said this before but I'll say it again. Pastorables, I would love to have you on my jury. :D


Am I the guy that always hangs the jury? 8)
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Postby DeWayneTN » December 5th, 2008, 11:11 am

The JUICE is no longer LOOSE!
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