Israeli Elections

bibleguy · Postby **bibleguy** » February 3rd, 2009, 2:16 pm

Tim Elston wrote:He is a bumbling fool.

This is a good way to dismiss those who differ ideologically. "Bush is an idiot." "Netanyahu is an idiot." "Sarah Palin is an idiot."

"Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful." (Psalm 1:1)

Tim Elston · Postby **Tim Elston** » February 3rd, 2009, 4:09 pm

bibleguy wrote:
Tim Elston wrote:He is a bumbling fool.

This is a good way to dismiss those who differ ideologically.

It's not an ideological assessment. Netanyahu had little respect both with allied leaders and negotiation competitors because he was highly emotional and thus easily manipulated. He got dragged between competing extremes easily and thus lost credibility with those with whom he was negotiating. His word consistently could not be counted on because he was not a strong leader; he waffled and bumbled and baffooned until even those on his side lost respect for him.

"Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful." (Psalm 1:1)

That is, don't walk with those who wrongly wage war, who torture, who give out no-bid contracts to enrich themselves, and don't sit with those who scorn those who speak up to hold them accountable for it, right? Don't side with those who deprive people of their homes and property or scorn those who stand against that behavior, right?

Dr. Ron · Postby **Dr. Ron** » February 4th, 2009, 10:30 am

Wow,.....Tim you are ever the optomist.

I know how you feel though....I have see a bumbling fool at work for about 15 days now.....sucks don't it.

MacUser · Postby **MacUser** » February 4th, 2009, 11:07 am

Dr. Ron wrote:Wow,.....Tim you are ever the optomist.

I know how you feel though....I have see a bumbling fool at work for about 15 days now.....stinks don't it.

Now that was funny. Thanks for the laugh. #-o

Full Quiver · Postby **Full Quiver** » February 5th, 2009, 2:11 pm

Gerald, what I described was God's way in the Old testament and since the JEWS believe they are still living in the OT then why not I ask?

I suppose one might say well how about the Christian Palestinians? kill them too? If they support the shelling and terror tactics of Palestine against Israel then YES, by all means!

This has NOTHING to do with whether Israel is a special nation or not. They are a nation and deserve the right to defend themselves and to completely destroy their enemies so that they may have peace.

Any nation that cannot secure it's borders, give peace to its citizens, and offer a reasonably happy and safe place to rear a family does not deserve to exist for very long and its own citizens need not support it.

paul · Postby **paul** » February 5th, 2009, 2:39 pm

bibleguy wrote:
Tim Elston wrote:He is a bumbling fool.

[b]This is a good way to dismiss those who differ ideologically. "Bush is an idiot." "Netanyahu is an idiot." "Sarah Palin is an idiot."

Welcome to Jude2

Tim Elston · Postby **Tim Elston** » February 11th, 2009, 9:56 pm

The good news: Tzipi Livni's Kadima party won the election by one seat.

The bad news: A right-wing hardliner coalition is likely to take power, making Netanyahu the Prime Minister.

I'm hoping Livni can pull off a majority government. That would be a good day for Israel.

bibleguy · Postby **bibleguy** » February 12th, 2009, 2:44 pm

Tim Elston wrote:The good news: Tzipi Livni's Kadima party won the election by one seat.

The bad news: A right-wing hardliner coalition is likely to take power, making Netanyahu the Prime Minister.

I'm hoping Livni can pull off a majority government. That would be a good day for Israel.

Yes, I'm sure that Hamas and the other hard-line, fanatical muslims will be delighted to work towards peace with a woman.

"Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all)," (Surah 4:34 Yusef Ali Version of the Koran).

Full Quiver · Postby **Full Quiver** » February 12th, 2009, 2:55 pm

I like Netanyahu and really don't know much about this woman candidate or Israeli politics but it was a female prime minister that kicked some Arab tail back in the 60's right?

bibleguy · Postby **bibleguy** » February 12th, 2009, 5:21 pm

Full Quiver wrote:I like Netanyahu and really don't know much about this woman candidate or Israeli politics but it was a female prime minister that kicked some Arab tail back in the 60's right?

Yeah. Too bad that Tzipi Livni is no Golda Meir.

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