would you vote for any of these people in 2012

[Pastor Gary]

I for one as a Conservative, not necessarily a Republican, am not looking for an inclusive big tent party. Either be conservative or get out of the tent is what I say!

Danny, I don't mean ideologically diverse; I mean racially, regionally and generationally diverse.

[Full Quiver]

IMHO, the Republican party, as an institution, is toast. It is far too stereotyped as southern, white, old, Christian... whatever... to be seen as an inclusive big tent party.

Is it a stereotype or are we the majority, vastly, that make up such a party? It is what it is, right?

[Pastor Gary]

IMHO, the Republican party, as an institution, is toast. It is far too stereotyped as southern, white, old, Christian... whatever... to be seen as an inclusive big tent party.

Is it a stereotype or are we the majority, vastly, that make up such a party? It is what it is, right?

White, southern and old are not the majority in America any more, and if that is what the Republican/Conservative base is limited to, the movement is dead. I know many black and hispanic conservatives, but they are alienated from the Republican Party.

[MacUser]

I only threw in Rush to see if anyone really thought he is the leader of the party. I think he is a joke. I like what he says some times but he is a "rep" machine whether they are right or wrong.

Joke? Sadly no... but a very influential top personality in the alternative media. On Rep Machine?.. Sadly no again... but takes all people to task based on conservative ideals.

This guy stands FIRMLY against abortion and will quickly support the common American individual with religious beliefs rather than mock and impugn as so fashionable to mock Christ in major media today. I wouldn't call that a Joke.

Btw.. I think a few days ago.. he publicly resigned as the leader of Republican Party and so the *ahem* moderate Colin Powell can take over.



[ SaRAH... SaRAH .. I love SMART pretty conservative women. I married one!]

[one love]

I only threw in Rush to see if anyone really thought he is the leader of the party. I think he is a joke. I like what he says some times but he is a "rep" machine whether they are right or wrong.

Joke? Sadly no... but a very influential top personality in the alternative media. On Rep Machine?.. Sadly no again... but takes all people to task based on conservative ideals.

This guy stands FIRMLY against abortion and will quickly support the common American individual with religious beliefs rather than mock and impugn as so fashionable to mock Christ in major media today. I wouldn't call that a Joke.

Btw.. I think a few days ago.. he publicly resigned as the leader of Republican Party and so the *ahem* moderate Colin Powell can take over.



[ SaRAH... SaRAH .. I love SMART pretty conservative women. I married one!]

I did not say I did not like him or that he does not say things that are true but as far as a leader of the party "he is a joke" the man makes 50 million a year and has been a puppet. Mac as Much as I liked Bush we both know he went against our conservative values that Rush speaks about yet he never went against Bush. Yes he may not have agreed time to time but he more defended the party.

[MacUser]

I did not say I did not like him or that he does not say things that are true but as far as a leader of the party "he is a joke" the man makes 50 million a year and has been a puppet. Mac as Much as I liked Bush we both know he went against our conservative values that Rush speaks about yet he never went against Bush. Yes he may not have agreed time to time but he more defended the party.

Are you serious? He went against Bush on SEVERAL key issues from immigration to education reform that Ted Kennedy wrote. Dude the list is like several pages long... it's just at the end of the DAY.. Bush was the best thing we had ( 75% for us ) and we conservatives had at the moment and he helped greatly in some ways and terrible in others.

It's no way that a puppet can do what he does. Obama is a puppet and needs a Teleprompter.

Beam me up Scotty.

[one love]

I for one as a Conservative, not necessarily a Republican, am not looking for an inclusive big tent party. Either be conservative or get out of the tent is what I say!

Danny, I don't mean ideologically diverse; I mean racially, regionally and generationally diverse.

[one love]

I did not say I did not like him or that he does not say things that are true but as far as a leader of the party "he is a joke" the man makes 50 million a year and has been a puppet. Mac as Much as I liked Bush we both know he went against our conservative values that Rush speaks about yet he never went against Bush. Yes he may not have agreed time to time but he more defended the party.

Are you serious? He went against Bush on SEVERAL key issues from immigration to education reform that Ted Kennedy wrote. Dude the list is like several pages long... it's just at the end of the DAY.. Bush was the best thing we had ( 75% for us ) and we conservatives had at the moment and he helped greatly in some ways and terrible in others.

It's no way that a puppet can do what he does. Obama is a puppet and needs a Teleprompter.

Beam me up Scotty.

MAC Do not mis understand me I love Rush and he is great at what he does, but he is not the leader of this party as the media wants to portray.
Just like Hannity, I love him but Man he has been a hypocrite on MANY issues as well. He constantly said things and then changed his position,

Bro Rush will not go against the party, that is truth. He has disagreed with some things Bush did but it mostly came down that "this liberal media" and distracted the issues.

His "I hope he fails" also caused more problems then solved them. He clearly meant his policies but he said quote me " I HOPE HE FAILS"

[Brandon Bowers]

I would love to see this.. The need for a 3rd party was a huge part of why I voted Libertarian.

will a 3rd party ever have a real chance at winning, or just continue pulling votes from the party it is closest to?

I thought about that for a while.. But decided that if everyone who doesn't really fit as a Democrat or Republican voted for the "lesser of two evils" than no change would ever come.

I knew Bob Barr wouldn't win, but I couldn't bring myself to vote for McCain or Obama..

[rjjunior]

White, southern and old are not the majority in America any more, and if that is what the Republican/Conservative base is limited to, the movement is dead. I know many black and hispanic conservatives, but they are alienated from the Republican Party.

Not to be a stickler, but...white and old are still the majority in America. 70% of America are over 35. Over 70% are white. Not that white and old are anything to build a party around. Just sayin'

[one love]

White, southern and old are not the majority in America any more, and if that is what the Republican/Conservative base is limited to, the movement is dead. I know many black and hispanic conservatives, but they are alienated from the Republican Party.

Not to be a stickler, but...white and old are still the majority in America. 70% of America are over 35. Over 70% are white. Not that white and old are anything to build a party around. Just sayin'

wow 35 is old now

so the party should cater to the 18 year old's who know nothing about issues j/k I get the point


hmmm so run with the legalize pot thing and you are a winner?

[soulsearcher]

Funny how times have changed. When I was growing up "white and southern" equaled Democrat, and for the most part racists. Republicans were the inclusive party.

[MacUser]

MAC Do not mis understand me I love Rush and he is great at what he does, but he is not the leader of this party as the media wants to portray.
Just like Hannity, I love him but Man he has been a hypocrite on MANY issues as well. He constantly said things and then changed his position,

Bro Rush will not go against the party, that is truth. He has disagreed with some things Bush did but it mostly came down that "this liberal media" and distracted the issues.

His "I hope he fails" also caused more problems then solved them. He clearly meant his policies but he said quote me " I HOPE HE FAILS"

Sadly.. If you let others set the benchmark or define your argument then you are in for a world of hurt. I reject this entire premise of your assertions because.... these are arguments that liberals have CREATED, GENERATED, and spun.

No matter how much you agree, impugn or reject the people that openly support you and your personal rights... so that you can be "liked", considered "opened minded" or under a "big tent" at the end of the day.. they will still not like you, only use you, and request you deny anything that offends them. They are the closed minded poor souls.

In the end what these "open minded individuals" are after is your ultimate condemnation of Christ also. Yes it all leads to that slope... and I will NOT throw over anybody based on arguments manufactured and I won't let my choice of future leaders be manipulated by political correctness but by values that I PERSONALLY decide and teach my children daily.

God Bless.

[Full Quiver]

Rush did say he hopes Obama fails and from what I have read here most of the posters among us hope Obama fails. It's Rush's opinion and the media labeled him as the leader of the GOP and wants to pin any negative spin on the entire GOP.

[RamboPreacher]

personally, I don't wish him failure. only that certain of his non-biblical/anti-biblical world-views/directions do. I pray for our president every day for wisdom, obedience to God and success for our country.