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Re: No, no, no

Postby Brian » August 24th, 2009, 2:18 pm

Pastor Gary wrote:
Russell Roberts wrote:...my guess is that it is a man's garment in that culture.


No, Russell. If we have learned anything from this thread it is that anything in the Bible is to be equally applied to all people, in all time and cultures, and we can't appeal to cultural appropriateness as a defense. :wink:


Hey PG, can you show me where anyone said that? I mean the part where people can't embrace there respective cultures while retaining there faith in God and Christ? If it was said I will flat out disagree with it. God is the God of American's as well as the God of Japanese, Indian, Russian, etc. etc. And he is express beautifully throughout those different cultures.
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Re: what?

Postby RamboPreacher » August 24th, 2009, 2:29 pm

RaceRunner wrote:...

I was laughing at Rambo in a kilt.

hahahahahhahhahahha!

Sorry Rambo......hahhahahhaha...
you don't seem to be truly sorry and repentant. is this how you trat sin in your life? hahaha, I am sorry, hahahaha...
RaceRunner wrote:
RamboPreacher wrote:
RaceRunner wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol: etc...
that was very "Christian" (not) of you to laugh at me/us, and at a very holy ceremony of wedding vows, to boot. wow. just wow. :roll:


poor baby. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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even more (not) Christian response. thank you for helping me to understand how I should judge your fruit. It is showing, so I don't have to infer anything.
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Whacking away ain't ya!

Postby Poimen » August 24th, 2009, 3:09 pm

Man PG! And y'all accused me of beating a dead horse. :shock: :roll:

Why is it when I argued against such as immodesty I was told to step away and to drop it, as if you didn't want the matter discussed further ... but you and others (pro and con) can keep on and on (especially the con) and you say nothing ? :?
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Re: Whacking away ain't ya!

Postby Pastor Gary » August 24th, 2009, 3:50 pm

Poimen wrote:Man PG! And y'all accused me of beating a dead horse. :shock: :roll:

Why is it when I argued against such as immodesty I was told to step away and to drop it, as if you didn't want the matter discussed further ... but you and others (pro and con) can keep on and on (especially the con) and you say nothing ? :?


You posted "I will fight no more, forever." That meant, to me, you decided to end the debate and agree to disagree. I was good with that... until Brian, Racerunner, Oldtimer and his wife opted to keep it rolling. :wink:
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Re: Whacking away ain't ya!

Postby Poimen » August 24th, 2009, 3:59 pm

Pastor Gary wrote:You posted "I will fight no more, forever." That meant, to me, you decided to end the debate and agree to disagree. I was good with that... until Brian, Racerunner, Oldtimer and his wife opted to keep it rolling. :wink:


I don't recall that exact order to things, but I'll take your word for it. That would explain what seemed like an inconsistency to me.

Sorry about that. :oops:
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Re: what?

Postby RaceRunner » August 25th, 2009, 2:33 am

RamboPreacher wrote:
RaceRunner wrote:...

I was laughing at Rambo in a kilt.

hahahahahhahhahahha!

Sorry Rambo......hahhahahhaha...
you don't seem to be truly sorry and repentant. is this how you trat sin in your life? hahaha, I am sorry, hahahaha...
RaceRunner wrote:
RamboPreacher wrote:
RaceRunner wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol: etc...
that was very "Christian" (not) of you to laugh at me/us, and at a very holy ceremony of wedding vows, to boot. wow. just wow. :roll:




poor baby. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

...
even more (not) Christian response. thank you for helping me to understand how I should judge your fruit. It is showing, so I don't have to infer anything.



What? Wearing a skirt made you lose your sense of humor? 8) :lol:


You are right Rambo. 8)

I'm completely unrepentant!!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


But then, as you can see....I'm the purple jelly-bean in my avatar!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Postby RamboPreacher » August 25th, 2009, 5:04 am

No. you are offending me. and you don't seem to care. unless, that is you don't consider me a brother in Christ, but that is another matter.

If we were in the entertainment forum, and there was context of humor and there was laughing WITH me, that is different than your disrespect, and utter lack of solemness, and sacredness of a marriage.

This was a wedding ceremony. I was NOT wearing a skirt. It is a kilt. You are being more and more offensive, and you don't even get it; so it is sadly dissapointing that a fellow believer in Christ would have so little respect for my feelings and traditions, that you would not only laugh AT (not with) me, but that you make fun of it and you furher expand the paradigm with more offensive statements, and hide behind that it is humor (to you).

You, are NO example of a Christian
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Postby RaceRunner » August 25th, 2009, 5:27 am

RamboPreacher wrote:No. you are offending me. and you don't seem to care. unless, that is you don't consider me a brother in Christ, but that is another matter.

If we were in the entertainment forum, and there was context of humor and there was laughing WITH me, that is different than your disrespect, and utter lack of solemness, and sacredness of a marriage.

This was a wedding ceremony. I was NOT wearing a skirt. It is a kilt. You are being more and more offensive, and you don't even get it; so it is sadly dissapointing that a fellow believer in Christ would have so little respect for my feelings and traditions, that you would not only laugh AT (not with) me, but that you make fun of it and you furher expand the paradigm with more offensive statements, and hide behind that it is humor (to you).

You, are NO example of a Christian



Oh my...feeling a tad judgmental & self-righteous today aren't we?


I'm sorry I missed the "Thou shalt not joke about or laugh at Rambo's kilt" in scripture... :D


Scripturally speaking preacher:

To be offended is to allow yourself (a weak/little one) to be turned completely from Christ....causing you die and go to hell.

To Offend is to set a trap/snare for a person (weak/little one) to turn completely from Christ, causing them to die and go to hell.

Neither of which applies to you....or me.

So really, you're probably just miffed cause I didn't admire your kilt. :)


But if you are TRULY Biblically offended, then I offer my sincerest and most heart-felt apologies.

So...let's begin again.


Nice Kilt Rambo. :D




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Postby RamboPreacher » August 25th, 2009, 5:59 am

wow, talk about being defensive and proof-texting. Justifying yourself much lately? the answer is YES. You still don't get it.
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Postby RaceRunner » August 25th, 2009, 6:10 am

RamboPreacher wrote:wow, talk about being defensive and proof-texting. Justifying yourself much lately? the answer is YES. You still don't get it.


Seriously....I do get it Rambo.

You are expert at straining at a marriage ceremony kilt, but swallowing the whole camel.




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I don't have to prove God's existance. He's already proven that. I just have to prove that He lives within me.



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Postby RamboPreacher » August 25th, 2009, 6:21 am

RaceRunner wrote:
RamboPreacher wrote:wow, talk about being defensive and proof-texting. Justifying yourself much lately? the answer is YES. You still don't get it.


Seriously....I do get it Rambo.

You are expert at straining at a marriage ceremony kilt, but swallowing the whole camel.




....
ahh - so you are saying that I should be following the Deuteronomic law and you believe I am wearing womens clothes?
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Seeking qualification

Postby Poimen » August 25th, 2009, 6:50 am

Rambo, if I may, and without meaning to add injury to insult, nor multiply offense ... I have a sincere question to ask.

I am perplexed here. How is it you can be so vehement about the sanctity of marriage, to the point of expecting reverence even for attire connected therewith, but sporting swimsuits and what not (whether perceived as sensual or not aside) at a Christian baptism, a biblical church ordinance (unlike marriage), is not equally, or more so, upsetting to you as an act of irreverence???

Just curious to understand how such might process for you.

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Postby RaceRunner » August 25th, 2009, 7:40 am

RamboPreacher wrote:
RaceRunner wrote:
RamboPreacher wrote:wow, talk about being defensive and proof-texting. Justifying yourself much lately? the answer is YES. You still don't get it.


Seriously....I do get it Rambo.

You are expert at straining at a marriage ceremony kilt, but swallowing the whole camel.


....
ahh - so you are saying that I should be following the Deuteronomic law and you believe I am wearing womens clothes?



Nope....wrong camel.

But if ya'll wish to harp on Deuteronomic law ...it also commands circumcision and no pork bar-b-q doesn't it??? 8)


Although I am usually game for a rousing "D&R-you're on your 2-3rd divorce and your denom. still ordained you" discussion....I don't have the time. But, we've "been-there-done-that" haven't we? I hear camel tastes like chicken?

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Re: Seeking qualification

Postby RaceRunner » August 25th, 2009, 7:44 am

Poimen wrote:Rambo, if I may, and without meaning to add injury to insult, nor multiply offense ... I have a sincere question to ask.

I am perplexed here. How is it you can be so vehement about the sanctity of marriage, to the point of expecting reverence even for attire connected therewith, but sporting swimsuits and what not (whether perceived as sensual or not aside) at a Christian baptism, a biblical church ordinance (unlike marriage), is not equally, or more so, upsetting to you as an act of irreverence???

Just curious to understand how such might process for you.

Thanks.


Now if Poimen showed up next Sunday in a kilt (he attends with us occasionally when he's not preaching at his).....I would become absolutely hysterical with laughter!!!!!!

And he wouldn't get offended!

Couldn't resist Chris!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Full Quiver » August 25th, 2009, 9:41 am

Now if they cut off a foot or so of fabric, giving the public glimpses of higher regions when they bend over....I would have to say no.


Squat please; bending over is not at all modest!
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