"Pedophile Clusters" are shelters for sex offender

[paul]

My point is that so often we label people because of their acts. Then wwe begin to view the person from the label and not as an individual caught up in a particular sin.

When I come in contact with those in a gay lifestyle, I try not to see them as homosexual. But someone who is in sin.

We, and I think in the Christian Church have label them so much, that ,if we are not careful, can become convinced that is the way they are, born that way.

With all the recent so called "coming out of the closset" by hollywood, It is obvious that it is a choosen life style. Therefore I avoid the label that they ARE, instead I see them caught up in an act.

Recently I have been working with an awsome young man..who was caught up in a full blown "gay lifestyle." In his mind he was convinced that he was a homosexual and would have to fight that inner urge the rest of his life. I said no you are not and never have been a homosexual, you choose to do the things you did. and now that you have come to Christ you choose not to.

[oletimer]

Paul I can understand what you are trying to say, but if we sin then are sinners.

Joh 8:34
Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

I believe that the spirit of homosexuality is real strong demon. I know I'll most likly catch slack for that statement, but when you see the strenght that it has in the world yesterday and now today, then you need to realize the power that spirit has. Yes the blood can cover it and cleans that soul, but it is really hard for one to leave it behind, and in order for us to be a child of God then we have to leave all sins behind.

Yes Paul if he was/is active in the acts of homosexuality, then he is "gay". The Blood of Christ can deliver him and cleans from this sin. If he steals, then he would be a theif.

The consequents of our action often have far reaching affects in our lives. Often leaving scares that we can never really ever get rid of. Sad but true. We don't all ways know the "whys", but the "HOWs" often hits us in the face like a brick hammer and that will leave a scare.

Hope you have succest with the young man. I feel that before he can get save he will have to know what his sins are and become Godly sorry for them and then he can forgiven for them, just like any other sin.

Joh 3:15
That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
Joh 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Joh 3:17
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.Joh 3:18
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Joh 3:19
And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
Joh 3:20
For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
Joh 3:21
But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

[Martha]

Approximately 3 miles from my house is a run down motel. There are 12 men listed living there who are sex offenders. Two are charged with possession of child pornography. One is unknown. One is for rape of a 32 year old woman. All the others are charges involving children under the age of 15.

There's a McDonalds, Arby's, Taco Bell, and Waffle House across the highway from this motel. There are also two schools about 3 miles from this motel.

[one love]

My point is that so often we label people because of their acts. Then wwe begin to view the person from the label and not as an individual caught up in a particular sin.

When I come in contact with those in a gay lifestyle, I try not to see them as homosexual. But someone who is in sin.
We, and I think in the Christian Church have label them so much, that ,if we are not careful, can become convinced that is the way they are, born that way.

With all the recent so called "coming out of the closset" by hollywood, It is obvious that it is a choosen life style. Therefore I avoid the label that they ARE, instead I see them caught up in an act.

Recently I have been working with an awsome young man..who was caught up in a full blown "gay lifestyle." In his mind he was convinced that he was a homosexual and would have to fight that inner urge the rest of his life. I said no you are not and never have been a homosexual, you choose to do the things you did. and now that you have come to Christ you choose not to.

For some reason we tend to label some sins greater then others and it disturbs me greatly. Now here it goes, hold your breath:

D/R is one of them. Yes I believe it is sin but some act as if it is greater then all else. I admit I have seen some churches that when they have a visitor that is a sinner they are more concerned if they are in D/R then anything else and it is wrong. For the most part that is not the case but..

Homosexuality is the same way but worse and this is why we have failed to reach more of them and show them that TRUE deliverance (not just find a church that will accept this lifestyle) Is possible.

Folks we were all sinners at one time which makes us guilty of all sins. If you were in sin you were a murderer, thief, liar, homosexual because you were in sin.

I am seeing some here feel that it is almost impossible to recover from this when it is just a sin problem that CAN be and is being forgiven and washed in the blood of the lamb. Not some classes to teach them not to think gay but true blue salvation, sanctification to rid them of the sin and the desire. I do not have a issue with any former homosexual being in a support Christian group if they are delivered not ones telling them that they are gay so they are trying to just fight the temptation.

Since when did God label sin in such a manner. I KNOW of a BROTHER and a very close friend that WAS a homosexual for a LONG time. He had some loving (yes TCOG folks talk to him with LOVE) friends that did not JUDGE him but let him know they loved him and so did God. They let him know that God can deliver him from this.

Years have passed now and he is Saved, sanctified and I had the pleasure to pray with him as he received the Holy ghost. He is NOT a homosexual that is forgiven he WAS a homosexual that is forgiven. He is NOT attracted to men but Women.
This Brother is on fire for the Lord and a state worker. He works HARD for God and is one of the most faithful Christians I have ever met.

God can deliver any sin no matter how bad we see it. he can heal any situation though it seems impossible. If anyone labels (this brother, who has been saved for years now and working hard for the Lord) as a homosexual that is their problem NOT HIS. God did the work.

I recently preached at our state convention that we have a tendency to place God in a box and feel certain people are not reachable. I am here to tell you that Jesus can save anyone and use them. He can take a drug addict, dope hustler, gang banger, money launderer, homosexual, drunkard, adulterer's, Buddhist, Muslims and deliver them and use them for his Glory.

When you are forgiven and "become a new creature in Christ AND behold old things PASS away and all things become new" (paraphrase)

You are now a Child of God forgiven, Not a Muslim that is forgiven in Gods eyes. Not a dope addict but forgiven in Gods eyes etc. I believe in the true transformation of the sinner that the person TRULY becomes a new creature with many great adventures to go and do for the Lord.

God is good.

Paul keep working with that young man GOD is able to deliver him of those feelings. I know another Brother in a Non denominational church that was married but a homosexual. He did some work on a huge church there i know (mega church) and someone witnessed to him. With in a year he was arrested for something and he decided to kill himelf in prison. While he was trying to figure out how a man walks up and ask him to come to this church meeting in prison. He did attend and to his surprise the minister was none other then the man that tried to lead him to Christ while building that Mega Church. He cried out loud that he wanted to be free and they prayed with him. He got saved, sanctified and believe it or not filled with the Holy Ghost while in Jail. His marriage is healed and he no longer has those feelings. He has been faithful for years.

Just imagine in such a HUGE area as Va beach/ hampton roads 1.9 million people. The one man that talked to him at that church just happened to be the one that was their prison minister. God is good folks.

Sorry this is so long.