75k rich?

[DaJudge]

i am one of those. am a manager. i have people working for me. its all the same everywhere so ill stay where i am at. but the older i get the more i understand about greed and the so called american dream. bottom line some will defend a way of life and stick there head in the sand as the economy goes bust and the rep. thats running for office says he dont know much about it. its going to be a great year!!!

Dawgs, just what is greed? What are these stockholders, CEOS, and business owners that you say are greedy doing? The same thing you are. They are trying to make a better life for themselves and their family. Do you work for free? No. You want to make every dime that is coming to you. Why do you expect them to do any less? The fact is, most businesses fail. Many investments fail. These people are taking a risk by starting the businesses that give you and me jobs. Some get rich doing it. Some go bust. Either way, don't begrudge them success. Stop belly aching and go out and make your own success. You live in a land of immense opportunity. You just have to get off your butt and grab those opportunities.

[MrDanger]

I though you Georgia people thought you were in south Heaven.

North Georgia is South Heaven. South Georgia is North Hell.

Huh. Guess that does make TN Heaven.

[MrDanger]

Of course the real problem is that the poor aren't paying their fair share in taxes. Last years figures from the IRS (don't have them with me, they are in my classroom) the top 5% of wage earners (the wealthiest of the wealthy) paid 95% of all taxes paid in.

The poor shouldn't get by with such highway robbery. Time for them to pay up.

[DaJudge]

Of course the real problem is that the poor aren't paying their fair share in taxes. Last years figures from the IRS (don't have them with me, they are in my classroom) the top 5% of wage earners (the wealthiest of the wealthy) paid 95% of all taxes paid in.

The poor shouldn't get by with such highway robbery. Time for them to pay up.

The only tax the poor pay is when they buy state run lottery tickets (or the stupid tax, as I like to call it)

[dawgs10]

i am one of those. am a manager. i have people working for me. its all the same everywhere so ill stay where i am at. but the older i get the more i understand about greed and the so called american dream. bottom line some will defend a way of life and stick there head in the sand as the economy goes bust and the rep. thats running for office says he dont know much about it. its going to be a great year!!!

Dawgs, just what is greed? What are these stockholders, CEOS, and business owners that you say are greedy doing? The same thing you are. They are trying to make a better life for themselves and their family. Do you work for free? No. You want to make every dime that is coming to you. Why do you expect them to do any less? The fact is, most businesses fail. Many investments fail. These people are taking a risk by starting the businesses that give you and me jobs. Some get rich doing it. Some go bust. Either way, don't begrudge them success. Stop belly aching and go out and make your own success. You live in a land of immense opportunity. You just have to get off your butt and grab those opportunities.

enron,tyco,all the oil companies,most retailers thats my idea of greed. 92% of a workforce that does not have insurence such as many retail companies. they incourage mangers to focus on single females with children and then raise the mandatory work week to 35 hours average for insurence and work them 32 hours. this happens all the time. we cant say that upper management dont know how to use people. how can you say that is moral? have we become so blind to people that work 3 jobs just to get by because thats what the republican party feeds us.

[MrDanger]

enron,tyco,all the oil companies,most retailers thats my idea of greed.

If you really feel this way, and are a person of integrity, stop doing business with them. Don't buy gas from those evil evil evil oil companies (which are just following the capitalistic law of supply and demand) and don't buy from those evil evil evil retailers.

How can you live with yourself when you feel it's wrong but you willingly choose to support them and all their evil ways. Look at that single mom in the eye that is victimized by having a job and know you are supporting her "slavery". That is if you have any integrity since you feel so strongly about it.

[Full Quiver]

Why is it that we all want to be well off, financially comfortable (what we call rich when it comes to politics), but we down those that are and say they should have to pay the brunt of the taxes?

If the IRS is bad then it's bad for all and not just us (under $75k earners).
I hope and look to make that amount of money and possibly more one day and I don't want to be looked at as if I have a silver spoon in my mouth and that I should pay all the taxes.

[DaJudge]

enron,tyco,all the oil companies,most retailers thats my idea of greed. 92% of a workforce that does not have insurence such as many retail companies. they incourage mangers to focus on single females with children and then raise the mandatory work week to 35 hours average for insurence and work them 32 hours. this happens all the time. we cant say that upper management dont know how to use people. how can you say that is moral? have we become so blind to people that work 3 jobs just to get by because thats what the republican party feeds us.

Did you even read my post? Do you want to respond to what I said? What happens if these hated rich people just fold up their tents and goes home. What poor person is going to give you a job?

[MrDanger]

By the way, I gave you a credible source (irs.gov, check it out even when a democrat is president these statistics stay similar) with my statistics about taxes. Please, since you know all these facts about the evil evil evil empires ruling our world, provide the sources for your claims of abuse of single moms, 92% of the workforce without insurance, etc.

[dawgs10]

enron,tyco,all the oil companies,most retailers thats my idea of greed.

If you really feel this way, and are a person of integrity, stop doing business with them. Don't buy gas from those evil evil evil oil companies (which are just following the capitalistic law of supply and demand) and don't buy from those evil evil evil retailers.

How can you live with yourself when you feel it's wrong but you willingly choose to support them and all their evil ways. Look at that single mom in the eye that is victimized by having a job and know you are supporting her "slavery". That is if you have any integrity since you feel so strongly about it.

i do chose carefully who i give my business. dajudge asked what greed is, ask that person that worked for 20 years 7 days a week and there job was moved to china so to save some of the large profit. sorry guys, its about caring for people, not giving hand outs, just treating them with respect as jesus would have.

[DaJudge]

By the way, I gave you a credible source (irs.gov, check it out even when a democrat is president these statistics stay similar) with my statistics about taxes. Please, since you know all these facts about the evil evil evil empires ruling our world, provide the sources for your claims of abuse of single moms, 92% of the workforce without insurance, etc.

Dawgs10's Sources:

Obama, Barack
Clinton, Hillary
Kennedy, Ted

[Pastor Gary]

...ask that person that worked for 20 years 7 days a week and there job was moved to china so to save some of the large profit.

Hold on... you mean there are people working 20 years 7 days a week without receiving a paycheck as compensation for those hours??? They worked for FREE in exchange for a promise of lifetime employment???

AMAZING.

[Kevin]

enron,tyco,all the oil companies,most retailers thats my idea of greed. 92% of a workforce that does not have insurence such as many retail companies. they incourage mangers to focus on single females with children and then raise the mandatory work week to 35 hours average for insurence and work them 32 hours. this happens all the time. we cant say that upper management dont know how to use people. how can you say that is moral? have we become so blind to people that work 3 jobs just to get by because thats what the republican party feeds us.

Did you even read my post? Do you want to respond to what I said? What happens if these hated rich people just fold up their tents and goes home. What poor person is going to give you a job?

Uhhh... the people these "hated rich people" leave room for because the five of them aren't cornering the market any more???

[MrDanger]

i do chose carefully who i give my business. dajudge asked what greed is, ask that person that worked for 20 years 7 days a week and there job was moved to china so to save some of the large profit. sorry guys, its about caring for people, not giving hand outs, just treating them with respect as jesus would have.

Don't you love it when someone doesn't have the facts in their corner so they try to spiritualize it. I love it when Jesus is used as a trump card. Don't you? It' brings him so much glory.

Now, to once again try to rationalize and answer your question.

So, we should hold a gun to the head of the owners and tell them that they HAVE to manufacture their products in the U.S.? Tell them that, even though we want the right to maximize how much we make, they can't do that.

In my household, if I want to have more to give or keep, I cut my expenses. Makes good sense. Unless you are some evil corporation, right?

The fact is, I am owed nothing, NOTHING, from the company I work for except a fair wage for the work I do. They don't owe me insurance. They don't owe me vacation. They don't owe me anything above my pay. Now here is the kicker. Because I live in the good ole U. S. of A., I can quit my evil job and go work for someone else (that is probably evil also) that will pay me what I want and OFFER me the benefits I want.

[Full Quiver]

ask that person that worked for 20 years 7 days a week

so these folks worked for free huh
I work to earn money. If you or these folks in question work/worked for any other reason then I am puzzled as to why.