Just curious--

[Pastor Gary]

You have just described many years of foundation that I've witnessed within the Church of God of Prophecy. I see no difference. If you believe that no one has been saved, healed, blessed, changed, or delivered at Lakeland then what of my heritage?

Didn't you recently begin to attend a NO-COGOP church?

Pastor Gary,

And your point?

My point -- sort of tongue-in-cheek -- was that since you "saw the light" elsewhere and left COGOP, perhaps you can also see the light and distance yourself from Lakeland.

My point was regarding whether or not people can be healed, saved, or delivered by the Lord's hand in the midst of much flesh? You didn't answer. I think they can.

Well, of COURSE they can! Who would say otherwise?? But does that excuse the flesh? NO.

We -- the church -- need to police ourselves and hold one another t high standards of mutual accountability. It bothers me that so many pentecostals believe there should be NO checks and balances, and no calling people to account. Yes, God can and does bless in spite of man's stupidity, but that doesn't excuse the stupidity.

[pastorables]

distance yourself from Lakeland.

For the record, I have only watched this event about twice on television. In the episodes I watched, I received a blessing from God to view a child's healing and testimony. It did not appear staged at all. I turned the channel when the scenery moved to excessive flesh. So, for the record, I do not endorse foolishness, but enjoy witnessing God's hand at work in spite of all else.

My point was regarding whether or not people can be healed, saved, or delivered by the Lord's hand in the midst of much flesh? You didn't answer. I think they can.

Well, of COURSE they can! Who would say otherwise?? But does that excuse the flesh? NO.

We -- the church -- need to police ourselves and hold one another t high standards of mutual accountability. It bothers me that so many pentecostals believe there should be NO checks and balances, and no calling people to account. Yes, God can and does bless in spite of man's stupidity, but that doesn't excuse the stupidity.

Okay. We are in agreement. It seems that this whole debate of recent has been a splitting of hairs. I would frame a statement as such, "there is great cause for concern with the reported spiritual outpouring in Lakeland, Fl, but we recognize that our omnipresent God is sovereign and can change the lives of individual seekers in spite of the excessive wildfire."

pa