Is Christ a stranger in a Spirit-filled congregation?

[soulsearcher]

The baloneyin his canoe, seems a little spoiled to me.

Nobody is argueing for the phoney-baloney either. There are differant ways to fix real baloney. I like mine fried with grits and eggs.

I am allergic to beef, so I have to eat turkey or chicken Balony, if I eat it at all. Beef eaters might call this phoney baloney. I think it depends a lot on whether the balony denominations maufactors have an affinity more to cows or turkeys.

Any body that knows me, puts me with the turkeys!!
Ray

Razer, I like you just dandy and I hope I can say this in a way that shows it. ............................................. What in the world are you talking about?!?

It sounds like a lot of baloney to me.

[THE RAzEr]

The baloneyin his canoe, seems a little spoiled to me.

Nobody is argueing for the phoney-baloney either. There are differant ways to fix real baloney. I like mine fried with grits and eggs.

I am allergic to beef, so I have to eat turkey or chicken Balony, if I eat it at all. Beef eaters might call this phoney baloney. I think it depends a lot on whether the balony denominations maufactors have an affinity more to cows or turkeys.

Any body that knows me, puts me with the turkeys!!
Ray

Razer, I like you just dandy and I hope I can say this in a way that shows it. ............................................. What in the world are you talking about?!?

I am responding to a past from gary. He says I could join "us" (whoever US is) in exposing evil. he also says I should not except all the phoey baloney.

Sooo, since there is absolutely no reason to infer I do not expose evil. Since there is absolutely no reason to think I accept phoney baloney. I wanted to point out that the inspection of meats and drinks was done already in the Bible.

It was not me who first brought the illustration up about the purity or Phonyness of balony. I suppose the baloney is a eupanism for the manifestation of the Spirit. The illustration made by the other poster must be ( I think) that the real move of the Spirit is Baloney, and that which Bentley and others are doing is Phoney Baloney. By inferrence I understand the poster to be supposing I want stand up to help the US expose this stuff; thus, I too may be eatng the PHONEY BALONEY.

Soooooooooooooo, I just want everyone to know, I sometimes like BALONEY. I like mine FERVANT. If it has got to be BEEF BALONEY to be real, I guess I am in trouble. I eat Turkey Baloney. But to all the Beef Baloney inspectors I say WHERE's THE BEEF?

Go out into the highways and Hedges ,,,that my house may be filled. Before we pull out the rug out from under what is wrong with what evryone else is doing, let's have something to show what is the real deal. And I do mean US (emphasis on me).

So the baloney analogy is not understood. I did not understand it when I first heard it. I think people can eat balony in various ways. More than that, I think people manifest various ways in there worship, and their giftedness. I am fervant in my worship. I am loud. I shout. I cry. I speak with tongues. Not always. I been in many COGOP Assemblies where I never did those things once. I like a preacher to tell me somthing. When he gets done preaching about God healing, then show me something. If he doesn't believe it then don't preach it.

Pentecoastalism takes a bad rap because of the perspection that there are decievers in the Clergy. Some gave that label to Oral Roberts. He was at the time of the Prayer tower incident United Methodist. Jim Jones was Disciples of Christ. The "Vicor of Christ" or the one who 'stands in Christ stead" is Roman Catholic.

I have not tried to uphold these. I have not tried to denouce these. I have denounced the idea that Pentecostals accept these men's doctines in whole hog buckets of slop, is irroneous.

I have no problem with Gary's denounciation of what he feels is abuse. I have no problem with Geralds denounciation of what he feels is abuse.

I have no problem with your choice concerning your walk with the Lord. I would hope it leads you back to pentecoastal worsip, but I am not going to accuse you of joining decievers just because I see some things differantly.

Not one person on this board who says they are Christain has denied Jesus is the Christ. I have not heard one person on this board expose that heaven is just another planet or that God is just a man about six foot tall. I have heard people say we have no proof there are not wonan angels. I do not believe there are men or woman angels. I believe there are Angels. That is not a salvation issue. In Martin Luthers day there wetre great debates about how many angels could bance on the head of a pen. sound stupid,but they debated it. Neither was sabboths, holy days, or meats and drinks an issue of salvation. However, they made it one. Neither is whether or not one shouts, runs the aisles or speaks with tongues an issue of salvation. To make it an issue of you believe it like i do or you believe everything a deciever teaches----------- is-------------a bunch of Spoiled Baloney to me. It will lead me no where for i refuse to follow.

I believe, Gary is solid in his desire for a real move of God. He comes from the deep south and so do I. I have seen the abuses, and I have experience what is real. So has he. I come out extremely emersed in my Pentecoastal worship. I am seeing more people Baptised with the Holy ghost, and Speking in Tongues than ever as i lay hands upon them and ask God that they be filled. Even in churches that are not use to Pentecoastal services. Especially upon people who do not have a Pentecoastal backgroud. I believe it is going to happen where I minister. I am fully persauded i am called to this ministry. There are more healings involved imn my ministry today than ever before.

I do not question the commitment to Truth of those who do not mainifest in church the way I do. And myself, nor many of my Pentecostal brothers and Sisters are not guilty of swalowing whole hog the abuses of the decievers, basphemers, chalatans, get rich schemers, whoremongers liars thieves, urine soaked, poop covered, mud splattered, slop eating, dead seeing, tatoe hindu Jesus monkey tooting, fruit looping scalawags, and carpetbaggers (which by the way I don't know if they or saved or not, but I do know some people who I believe are saved, but they ain't going to lead me anywhere no more).

I followed some of them into a lot of boundage They can't lead me any where I refuse to follow any longer. I think some of them are alot more danderous to me personally than Todd Bentley can ever be. Bentley will tell you what he thinks. The crowd I am talking about led people down a legalistic road for years. They did it and kept their positions. They tell us now they knew it was wrong, but it was the Tomlinson's. It was the preachers in the south. It was everybody, but them. It was them! IT WAS ME! If God could rescue them-- If God could rescue me-- Then he is a Good God? He is mighty, and he is going to rescue many, many more.

So, I do not make myself clear enough. For this I am sorry. You appear to me to be a seeker for God. I have confidence you are finding Him as you seek.

Ray

[Pastor Gary]

I suppose the baloney is a eupanism for the manifestation of the Spirit.

That's where you missed the train, Ray... "BALONY" is in NO WAY a euphemism for the manifestation of the Spirit.

If it is the HOLY Spirit that is being manifested, there is nothing phoney or baloney about it. It's the manifestation of deceiving spirits that I was calling baloney; you know, the "gold" dust, angel feathers stuff.

[THE RAzEr]

I suppose the baloney is a eupanism for the manifestation of the Spirit.

If it is the HOLY Spirit that is being manifested, there is nothing phoney or baloney about it. It's the manifestation of deceiving spirits that I was calling baloney; you know, the "gold" dust, angel feathers stuff.

Oh come on not again. Now I got to deal with trains. There was a movie TRAINS, PLANES, AND AUTOMOBILES. We could talk about Grady Kent noe and The F of the W.

This train don't carry no Gold Dust
This train.
This train want allow feather
This train
On this train there will be no shouting
Don't say nothin 'bout no more doubtin
this train.
This train don't have no Baloney
This train
If this train had Baloney.
It wouldn't be spoiled .
No it wouldn't Be Phoney.
This train
This train don't carry Todd Benley
This train
This train don't have no Copeland's
They want catcth it
Just Stand there Hoping
This train ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm! whoo whoo
That's where you missed the train, Ray... "BALONY" is in NO WAY a euphemism for the manifestation of the Spirit.


Well I did miss it then. I didn't miss that you said something about it. I did miss it that you didn't mean to make a comparison between real Baloney an Phoney Baloney. I think I understand, you just don't want to see any Baloney. There is Baloney, and then there is Phoney Baloney (actually Bologna). The real Baloney is real, and the Phoney Baloney is real Baloney that is Phoney, but it is still really Baloney, but its Phoney. I did not miss it far, because I see thetre is a bunch of Baloney. Some of it is not even sliced. It is just rolled out, and a person is expected to just bite it off in chunks. I heard some one say one time that it ain't even baloney if it ain't in a roll. Later on they were eating sliced Baloney from a package, but enough about Denominations and their Doctriinal issues.

Ray

[Shepherd]

Hey bro!

Go easy on the sauce.

[dolfan]

Razer, I was with you in your explanation and I appreciate it, too. THEN, , you said this

There is Baloney, and then there is Phoney Baloney (actually Bologna). The real Baloney is real, and the Phoney Baloney is real Baloney that is Phoney, but it is still really Baloney, but its Phoney. I did not miss it far, because I see thetre is a bunch of Baloney. Some of it is not even sliced. It is just rolled out, and a person is expected to just bite it off in chunks. I heard some one say one time that it ain't even baloney if it ain't in a roll. Later on they were eating sliced Baloney from a package, but enough about Denominations and their Doctriinal issues.

Ray

.... and I'm just lost again. Don't explain it, please. I'm just going to read past the baloney remarks.

[THE RAzEr]

Hey bro!

Go easy on the sauce.

I am not drunk as ye suppose!