A time to gather Stones together has come (Ya think?)

[Pastor Gary]

If you were concerned with the wishes of the majority around here, I would think you wouldn't have exercised/abused your status as "moderator" to make this topic "sticky."

Gerald didn't make it sticky. I saw his poll and changed it to sticky as I do MOST polls for the first day or so at least. No great conspiracy here, Amy. I just like polls at the top.

[amydawn]

If you were concerned with the wishes of the majority around here, I would think you wouldn't have exercised/abused your status as "moderator" to make this topic "sticky."

Gerald didn't make it sticky. I saw his poll and changed it to sticky as I do MOST polls for the first day or so at least. No great conspiracy here, Amy. I just like polls at the top.

I stand corrected- sorry for the accusation Gerald. Thanks for the info Pastor Gary.

[Pastor Gary]

I am sure Jeremy has an agenda, but maybe isn't stating his point clearly.

That would be an absolute delight if we could clearly understand what, if any, agenda he might have. He seems very intelligent and able to express himself, so I am not sure why he isn't stating his pint clearly.

Remember, I invited him here because I thought he might have something valid to contribute. I am waiting for that valuable contribution to start and the sniper attacks to end.

[Sherry]

My vote was to let him stay....why, simply because someone with so much to post, has really had very little to say. Maybe he'll learn a thing or two from the intelligent, educated, and honorable people on this board. People that I have great respect for. I know I have learned a lot from them and I'm hoping that someone like N2 will open their mind and heart and actually read what is being posted. Hopefully, with time N2 will learn as I have the value of the diverse opinions on this board. Sometimes it's best to sit back and just listen.

[stevenson]

AMEN!

[doris]

I've changed my mind, which is a ladies perogative, I've been told. Take him out. Shellie can get the next one. Pastor Gary does not deserve any of this, so Gerald, and you too Kenya. DOIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rough_rider]

Should n2art2 be booted ? yes, should we show mercy? yes indeed!
Give him a chance to repent for his offensive personal attacks.
If he continues with personal attacks on Monday then do what you will.

[Paully_44]

edited last thought.

ban him, don't ban him
ignore him, don't ignore him

[Greggles]

WOW

This reminds me of the story in the bible when Jesus was taken up and they couldn't find anything that he was guilty of and the mass began to shout "Crucify Him, Crucify Him"

So folks I haven't been around, but exactly what has Jeremy done? I would love to see some links to the posts that he has been "personal" and I am not saying he hasn't been. But then again I have been lurking around for a while and man some of you do too.


Inquiring minds NEED to know.

Greggles**

[Gerald Creasy]

If you were concerned with the wishes of the majority around here, I would think you wouldn't have exercised/abused your status as "moderator" to make this topic "sticky."

It would have stayed on top on it's own merits, or dropped accordingly, in natural response to the wishes of the majority.

AmyD,

Et tu?

I am glad that you take the time to point a finger of accusation yourself once in a while.

As a Sticky it WOULD ALWAYS be seen by the person of offense.


Jeremy Holt has made charges, itimations against Pastor Gary and has engaged in general character assassination against him.

How would you deal with such?

Forgive and ALLOW it to continue?

I WON'T allow it to continue no matter how much of the weepy Lovey-dovey forgivness stuff is spouted (Nor how many fingers are pointed).

[The Martins]

As I stated before, I voted to let him stay & let the Big Dawgs get him. Part of my reasoning was that he would leave of his own accord, and not come back. If he is banned, he can come back tomorrow as another entity and we won't realize who he is until he has stirred another pot of poop - and the stink will let us know.

However, is there a way to ban him and keep him out? I mean, can you tell by IP address that it's him trying to rejoin under another name? What if he uses a different computer or ISP?

If he cannot be banned permanently and forever, I still say not to do it. Let's just sit back and enjoy the Dawg Fite. If he can be banned for good - go for it!

Where is he of late, anyway? Maybe just the thoughts of the Big Dawgs sceered him off!

[Mike Vande]

I WON'T allow it to continue no matter how much of the weepy Lovey-dovey forgivness stuff is spouted (Nor how many fingers are pointed).

Well then, lock the door on the little bozo and get it over with! There is ample reason already to ban him, and it continues to grow. If this site is going to maintain it's integrity, either give everybody the mysterious "reason" Captain Insulto is allowed to continue here, the one he keeps alluding to in his posts, or shut his silly face out and have done with it!

Vande

[amydawn]

AmyD,

Et tu?

I am glad that you take the time to point a finger of accusation yourself once in a while.

Gerald, I said I was sorry. Shall I lay flat down from this crouched position to make it even easier for you to kick? My ribs are right here. You don't have a fight here.

Jeremy Holt has made charges, itimations against Pastor Gary and has engaged in general character assassination against him.

I don't speak for Pastor Gary. I doubt anyone else does either, although many are trying, with their great intentions. I trust that Pastor Gary is -- as all of us should strive -- following in the footsteps of the Master, letting this mind be in him, making himself of no reputation, and praying about a solution. Offense is always a nice built in indicator to prompt us to evaluate if our flesh is perhaps a little too healthy. I have every confidence Pastor Gary's response will be along those lines (and I would not question it). I am not, however, equally confident in this new democracy or transfered powers.

How would you deal with such?

Forgive and ALLOW it to continue?

No. And it doesn't matter what I would do. Look to The Example and draw your own conclusions.

I WON'T allow it to continue no matter how much of the weepy Lovey-dovey forgivness stuff is spouted (Nor how many fingers are pointed).

This summation of how I view my Christ and the behavior He expects from me as His follower is exactly why I'm less than at ease with the delegation of power in this forum. I pray that a hostile environment is not created here.

I am not opposed to discipline and parameters. I understand their need. I am concerned when brothers and sisters in the one body behave as sharks in a feeding frenzy. This public, group flogging cannot be supported biblically. This is not "Airplane" and we do not all deserve to line up and slap the face of Jeremy Holt. There is a better way, one that involves less stroking of our flesh.

Gerald, I enjoy you and do not want this issue to define our forum-relationship. I implore you to resist the urge to verbally slaugter me.

[Brenda]

WOW

This reminds me of the story in the bible when Jesus was taken up and they couldn't find anything that he was guilty of and the mass began to shout "Crucify Him, Crucify Him"

So folks I haven't been around, but exactly what has Jeremy done? I would love to see some links to the posts that he has been "personal" and I am not saying he hasn't been. But then again I have been lurking around for a while and man some of you do too.


Inquiring minds NEED to know.

Greggles**

Greg this is about where I stand too.

Computers been down and when it got back up I seen all these jumping on "one" man.
Boy the STRESS, must be awefull!!!

I thought what christian words to use against a brother. satan must be leaping for joy.

[Gerald Creasy]

Gerald, I said I was sorry. Shall I lay flat down from this crouched position to make it even easier for you to kick? My ribs are right here. You don't have a fight here.

The response was posted before I saw Pastor Garys response to you or your apology.