Cursing Christians

[Alan]

I have friends who work in the correction field. They tell me inorder to get the inmates to respond they are forced to use profanity. With out which the inmates do not take them seriously. What are these people to do ?

I have worked in corrections and this is not true. The key is to never back down and never show any sign of fear (even if you're scared to death).

[Shellie]

TC wrote:

I heard the language as well as going to strip clubs, Hiring strippers

It's okay as long as the strippers don't cuss.

[MrDanger]

Mr. Danger with all do respect that verse has a lot to say about this. As do others. In other words let your conversation be to the point, avoid things that can cause offense.

All respect received and returned. However, I still don't see it. What I see in this scripture (and I hate to give this away since I'm still waiting on Oletimer's answer) is say what you mean. If you say "Yes" mean yes. If you say "No" mean it. Don't deceive.

As far as I know, I haven't really told my position on this. So I'm not trying to hug up to the world any.

[one love]

Mr. Danger with all do respect that verse has a lot to say about this. As do others. In other words let your conversation be to the point, avoid things that can cause offense.

All respect received and returned. However, I still don't see it. What I see in this scripture (and I hate to give this away since I'm still waiting on Oletimer's answer) is say what you mean. If you say "Yes" mean yes. If you say "No" mean it. Don't deceive.

As far as I know, I haven't really told my position on this. So I'm not trying to hug up to the world any.

I understand I have to run to some jobsites and make sure they ar working But when I get back I will post a response tha may be more in depth to what you are looking for

[MrDanger]

TC wrote:

I heard the language as well as going to strip clubs, Hiring strippers

It's okay as long as the strippers don't cuss.

Good call.

[RamboPreacher]

TC wrote:

I heard the language as well as going to strip clubs, Hiring strippers

It's okay as long as the strippers don't cuss.

they need to serve good "buffalo wings" too.

[Ilovebigcats]

I know this will get tore apart but living without "condemnation" does not mean to except all sins and say we are covered.
Blast away I will duck the bullets while i run the isle with my flag

I hope you aren't referring to me. I by no means believe that.

BTW Bullets CAN hit a man no matter what flag he holds.

[DaJudge]

TC wrote:

I heard the language as well as going to strip clubs, Hiring strippers

It's okay as long as the strippers don't cuss.

they need to serve good "buffalo wings" too.

It's beyond me why anyone would want to eat in a strip club. I'd be afraid of what I found floating in the Buffalo Sauce.

[Shellie]

DaJudge wrote:

It's beyond me why anyone would want to eat in a strip club. I'd be afraid of what I found floating in the Buffalo Sauce.

[one love]

I know this will get tore apart but living without "condemnation" does not mean to except all sins and say we are covered.
Blast away I will duck the bullets while i run the isle with my flag

I hope you aren't referring to me. I by no means believe that.

BTW Bullets CAN hit a man no matter what flag he holds.

No sis I was not, i understand completely what you believe. It was not meant at anyone person at all.

Now I am one that goes to the shooting range often and a gun owner, well mutiple guns owner. If I run and shout with as much flesh as possible it will be hard to hit me. Plus I will wave the flag so much it will take the attention off of me

[one love]

DaJudge wrote:

It's beyond me why anyone would want to eat in a strip club. I'd be afraid of what I found floating in the Buffalo Sauce.

shellie you and Mr danger keep me laughing just thought i would let you both know that. Thanks

[oletimer]

Full Quiver wrote;
Oletimer, this verse alone doesn't really address the subject at hand.

Hear is a few more, maybe they will give more light.

Mr Danger wrote;
So are you saying all other words but "Yea and Nay" are cuss words?

Words are not cuss words in them selves. There is the intent of the heart.

Pastor Gary wrote:
Our friends from Australia think it is HILARIOUS (and shocking) that Americans would name a male child "Randy", since that word means the exact same thing as an American means when we say "horny."

Thus some words would be out of place in some places, while maybe acceptable in other uses.

Mr Danger wrote;
To me, I can't explain what you are trying to say because that scripture doesn't apply to the conversation. Honestly, I don't know how that applies to the conversation at all.

Mt 5:33 Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:
Mt 5:34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:
Mt 5:35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.
Mt 5:36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.
Mt 5:37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.

Maybe with the rest of the verses you can see that Christ was instructing us to keep our “communication” clean. One asked

if cussing was a sin?

I feel from all the scriptures rightly divided, the single answer would be yes. That is why I had to get victory over words that was not proper. Most are a habit and a habit that is offence to a lot of people and does not help your ministry.

Jesus said:

Mt 12:33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.
Mt 12:34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
Mt 12:35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.
Mt 12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
Mt 12:37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

God in giving the Ten Commandments in Ex20:27 said;

Ex 20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
Le 19:12 And ye shall not swear by my name falsely, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD.

Ro 12:14 Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not.

1Ti 1:20 Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme (cuss)
James wrote in the third chapter and when you get to verse ten, read it slow and listen to what is being said.

Jas 3:1 My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation.
Jas 3:2 For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body.
Jas 3:3 Behold, we put bits in the horses' mouths, that they may obey us; and we turn about their whole body.
Jas 3:4 Behold also the ships, which though they be so great, and are driven of fierce winds, yet are they turned about with a very small helm, whithersoever the governor listeth.
Jas 3:5 Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth!
Jas 3:6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.
Jas 3:7 For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind:
Jas 3:8 But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.
Jas 3:9 Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God.
Jas 3:10 Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.
Jas 3:11 Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter?
Jas 3:12 Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh.
Jas 3:13 Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.
Jas 3:14 But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth.
Jas 3:15 This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish.
Jas 3:16 For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.

There is a lot more that can be said. Maybe later, but right now hope this will help.

[Pastor Bill]

I have friends who work in the correction field. They tell me inorder to get the inmates to respond they are forced to use profanity. With out which the inmates do not take them seriously. What are these people to do ?

My FIL has worked in the GA prison system for years, and now serves as either warden or dept. warden (he's been moved recently, and I know he's been both in the past, not sure currently), but he would disagree with this statement, although he has only been in church a year, I don't think he has ever resorted to swearing to get respect, it's unprofessional, and unneccesary.

Now on the main discussion, no where does the scripture say "Thou Shalt not speaketh the following words..."

There are many reasons to avoid the vulgarity, but be careful creating adding legalism that not really there.

[Pastor Bill]

hey rappers say "thank the lord" when they win awards. Yet they rap about murder,sex, violence etc. There has to be a limit.
I love the show "dog" but i class that the same as the rappers. Anyone can say a prayer and mention christ but it does not make them saved and does not mean there testimony is a good thing. As I said rappers do it all the time, yes even 2pac did many times, he used ot be my favorite But the fact is he was a drug addict and a very violent person tied up with the biggest organized crime person on the west coast "s. night" but he praised God many times in his cd's

Yes and how many of these things could be said of Pastors and church members?

There must be standards, and we must strive to live for God, but not by making up rules that don't exist in scripture. So far I've not been able to find the scripture that points out the position in the church that judges the hearts of men and women, everything seems to point to some "Holy Spirit" but hey who is that?

Am I missing something, or are we trying to act as the HG instead of letting Him do His job? If you can find it spelled out exactly in scripture, then preach it out, if not, step back and let the Holy Ghost deal with the attitudes and errors. If we spent more time seeking God and less time acting in His place, we'd be better off.

(not directed at you, but at the entire church, we set aside what sins we can hide and ignore them, while we pick at little things like uttering a syllable that "may offend", meanwhile the lost are dying every day.

[Pastor Bill]

Mr. Danger with all do respect that verse has a lot to say about this. As do others. In other words let your conversation be to the point, avoid things that can cause offense.

All respect received and returned. However, I still don't see it. What I see in this scripture (and I hate to give this away since I'm still waiting on Oletimer's answer) is say what you mean. If you say "Yes" mean yes. If you say "No" mean it. Don't deceive.

As far as I know, I haven't really told my position on this. So I'm not trying to hug up to the world any.

Putting more context on that, it is also addressing swearing of oaths. As Christians we should not have to swear an oath, we should ALWAYS be truthful.