Baptized Since Believing?

[Poimen]

The classic pentecostal understanding is that upon reception of the Spirit baptism a believer is then indwelt by the Holy Ghost (and not before). Now, I personally have some misgivings about that particular aspect of traditional pentecostal belief (having come to believe the indwelling and [for lack of a better term] the infilling, to be two distinct operations of the Spirit). However, using that as a starting point ...

The idea of being filled with the Spirit, and it's relation to being baptized in the Spirit, seems to be initially synonymous. That is to say, one is initially filled with the Spirit when they are baptized in the Spirit. However, once baptized, the believer can (and should) experience re-fillings. The baptism of the Spirit is not said to be performed over and over, but our submission to Him and our being caught up in His presence, overflowing with His enabling, and exuding His power and gifting is something that reoccurs throughout our life in the Spirit.

So, after one is initially filled (i.e. Spirit baptized), they can be re-filled as oft as needed or necessary.

Simplistic, but adequate, no?

[Pastorbps]

The classic pentecostal understanding is that upon reception of the Spirit baptism a believer is then indwelt by the Holy Ghost (and not before). Now, I personally have some misgivings about that particular aspect of traditional pentecostal belief (having come to believe the indwelling and for lack of a better term, the infilling, two be tow distinct operations of the Spirit). However, using that as a starting point ...

The idea of being filled with the Spirit and it's relation to being baptized in the Spirit seems to be initially synonymous. That is to say one is initially filled with the Spirit when they are baptized in the Spirit. However, once baptized, the believer can (and should) experience re-fillings. The baptism of the Spirit is not said to be performed over and over, but our submission to Him and our being caught up in His presence, overflowing with His enabling, and exuding His power and gifting is something that reoccurs throughout our life in the Spirit.

So, after one is initially filled (i.e. Spirit baptized), they can be re-filled as oft as needed or necessary.

Simplistic, but adequate, no?

Ditto

[MacUser]

Expounding on Beckrl "anointing" post and how it's transferred to us:

Christ (Khristós) meaning "the anointed".

Galatians 4:6 NIV
6. Because you are sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, the Spirit who calls out, "Abba,[a] Father."
[a] Aramaic for Father


Beautiful.



Other interesting..
Romans 8:9
9However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him.

and:
John 14:17
17 that is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not see Him or know Him, but you know Him because He abides with you and will be in you.

[Pastorbps]

Poimen:
Try this. I will accept these men were disciples of John the Baptist BUT I don't believe Paul thought that originally. I think he thought they were disciples of Jesus and when he questioned them he found they were only disciples of John. I really lean toward that explanation or what I stated before, that they claimed to be disciples of Jesus but not in the sense that Jesus was the Christ but only a prophet like John preaching the imminent kingdom and repentance.

[Poimen]

Poimen:
Try this. I will accept these men were disciples of John the Baptist BUT I don't believe Paul thought that originally. I think he thought they were disciples of Jesus and when he questioned them he found they were only disciples of John.

*emphasis mine*

Agreed!

That bold portion of your comment in the quote above is actually what I intended to communicate all along, though I obviously failed to make that clear.