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Re: Absurdity?

Postby Gerald Creasy » July 1st, 2008, 7:12 am

pastorables wrote:Mark 8:23 And he took the blind man by the hand, and led him out of the town; and when he had spit on his eyes, and put his hands upon him, he asked him if he saw ought.

Mark 7:33 And he took him aside from the multitude, and put his fingers into his ears, and he spit, and touched his tongue;

1 Kings 17:21 He stretched out over the boy three times and called out to the LORD, “O LORD, my God, please let this boy’s breath return to him.”

Everyone knows there's no absurdity in scripture. :shock: :roll: :wink: Right? :D

I like my Kool Aid salted with truth. 8)

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Disclaimer - I am not on the Bentley Bandwagon, however I do believe in absurd miracles. Bentley cannot be debunked by judging his absurdity alone.



Somehow, I dont think either Jesus or the prophet sounded like they were a lying blowhard holding in reefer fumes when they talked but, hey, we're Pentecostal so everything goes!!!!

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Postby RamboPreacher » July 1st, 2008, 7:25 am

I made this post in another forum, and since it also replies in kind to Pastorables, though I would copy here:
actually....
There are lots of "absurd" things in the Bible, that I believe as far as "manifestations of God. so, I try to not judge based on a perception of absurdity, alone. there was a couple times, as I recall without looking it up, when Jesus spittle, was involved in miraculous healings.

My challenge isn't so much that there are those, as I have mentioned in those more appropriate threads for this topic, it is more about some other issues that are apparently not just "misunderstandings", or based on another interpretation of God's Word - but are in defiance of same.

When it comes to revival, that is not something that I believe is "here" or "there" (or in Lakeland). "revival" is in the individual heart. it may be shown in particular groups, but the revivals (Biblically speaking), are not about "proving God's existence", and they are not about "going to get healed". Not even are they about going to get "spiritually renewed".

A revival, Biblically speaking, in my opinion, is something that happens when a person or group are told or otherwise informed of the sin and moral corruption in their life, and they repent, and change their ways.
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Postby pastorables » July 1st, 2008, 11:50 am

RamboPreacher wrote:I made this post in another forum, and since it also replies in kind to Pastorables, though I would copy here:
actually....
There are lots of "absurd" things in the Bible, that I believe as far as "manifestations of God. so, I try to not judge based on a perception of absurdity, alone. there was a couple times, as I recall without looking it up, when Jesus spittle, was involved in miraculous healings.

My challenge isn't so much that there are those, as I have mentioned in those more appropriate threads for this topic, it is more about some other issues that are apparently not just "misunderstandings", or based on another interpretation of God's Word - but are in defiance of same.

When it comes to revival, that is not something that I believe is "here" or "there" (or in Lakeland). "revival" is in the individual heart. it may be shown in particular groups, but the revivals (Biblically speaking), are not about "proving God's existence", and they are not about "going to get healed". Not even are they about going to get "spiritually renewed".

A revival, Biblically speaking, in my opinion, is something that happens when a person or group are told or otherwise informed of the sin and moral corruption in their life, and they repent, and change their ways.


I concur with these thoughts.

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Postby Jennifer Smith » July 2nd, 2008, 11:34 am

Gerald Creasy wrote:
Jennifer Smith wrote:Well, thanks....I think. :)

See you at Evangel on the 17th? :lol: :lol: :lol:



You see?


Y'all thought I was being cruel. That my comments were uncalled for.


Guess who's gonna be at Evangel on the 17th?

And Guess who has a handful of twenties all ready?



I try to make a joke.... :roll: That was a cheap shot.

BTW I am tired of the "twenties" analogy and of being described in this imagined scenario. It is disrespectful and crude.

I will be on vacation, but you might see pastorsam there.
He is pretty easy to spot. :)
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Postby EagerBeaver » July 2nd, 2008, 1:43 pm

Could I politely ask that Jennifer and any others on the board here who agree with Todd Bentley's show to please read the following article:

http://archive.constantcontact.com/fs05 ... 43056.html

It has some great points you cannot refute, and some that have not been mentioned previously on J2.
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Postby Jennifer Smith » July 2nd, 2008, 2:36 pm

Eagerbeaver, could I ask that others not put words into my mouth. I have not endorsed Todd Bentley. At the same time I do not claim to understand enough about his ministry to make any endorsement. Nor do I agree with those who feel we should divide over these types of issues. I feel that is wrong. Ask God for understanding. We are not to discriminate but to pray for and love our brothers and sisters.

Perhaps it is not you, but in some people's minds dividing is the right thing to do- but it is not biblical. I love all my baptist brothers and sisters, the Methodists, the presbyterians, and, yes, even the pentecostals. :)

I did glance at the website you posted, but I had a hard time with it. :) It contained some facts which weren't correct- honestly, I would prefer to find a more objective and reliable source, but, I appreciate you posting the information. Thanks for being polite.
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Postby one love » July 2nd, 2008, 2:39 pm

The article had some interesting things but it seemed slanted against any pentecostal type services but i found this interesting look at this video he looks so different then now i cant believe it and what is this "blah blah blah" thing? he has hair though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSTGiZQyKnQ

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Postby Jennifer Smith » July 2nd, 2008, 3:21 pm

He did look different- better actually! (I don't like the tattoos.) I didn't have the time/ patience to watch the whole thing, I need to be doin' my homework!

Honestly, I'm in four classes right now- they are accelerated for the summer so they take 1/2 time. So, it's like being in 8 classes. I don't have time to look into it right now. But I do care about Jude2 being a place where I want to continue posting and where we can agree to disagree if needed, in love.
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Postby one love » July 2nd, 2008, 3:28 pm

Jennifer Smith wrote:He did look different- better actually! (I don't like the tattoos.) I didn't have the time/ patience to watch the whole thing, I need to be doin' my homework!

Honestly, I'm in four classes right now- they are accelerated for the summer so they take 1/2 time. So, it's like being in 8 classes. I don't have time to look into it right now. But I do care about Jude2 being a place where I want to continue posting and where we can agree to disagree if needed, in love.


I could not agree more :wink:

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Postby pastorables » July 2nd, 2008, 5:52 pm

Jennifer Smith wrote: I have not endorsed Todd Bentley. At the same time I do not claim to understand enough about his ministry to make any endorsement. Nor do I agree with those who feel we should divide over these types of issues. I feel that is wrong. Ask God for understanding. We are not to discriminate but to pray for and love our brothers and sisters.



Ditto. :D
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