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COGOP questions: Who are these....?

Posted: June 7th, 2006, 5:44 am
by Gerald Creasy
Isa 60:8 Who [are] these [that] fly as a cloud, and as the doves to their windows?

The prophet Isaiah was foreseeing the Wright brothers flying for the first time in North Carolina, shortly before the reemergence of the TRUE church of GOD.

Re: COGOP questions: Who are these....?

Posted: June 7th, 2006, 6:05 am
by Paully_44
Gerald Creasy wrote:Isa 60:8 Who [are] these [that] fly as a cloud, and as the doves to their windows?

The prophet Isaiah was foreseeing the Wright brothers flying for the first time in North Carolina, shortly before the reemergence of the TRUE church of GOD.


Here is The Message interpretation fo said verse(s)

"What's that we see in the distance,
a cloud on the horizon, like doves darkening the sky?
It's ships from the distant islands,
the famous Tarshish ships
Returning your children from faraway places,
loaded with riches, with silver and gold,
And backed by the name of your God, The Holy of Israel,
showering you with splendor.


Not sure where the Wright Brothers fit in the ships of Tarshish.

Posted: June 7th, 2006, 6:58 am
by DaJudge
Just a bunch of Grady Kent cultish nonsense.

Posted: June 8th, 2006, 9:45 am
by Gerald Creasy
6-8-06

20% Say YES!

Re: COGOP questions: Who are these....?

Posted: June 8th, 2006, 10:19 am
by Brenda
Gerald Creasy wrote:Isa 60:8 Who [are] these [that] fly as a cloud, and as the doves to their windows?

The prophet Isaiah was foreseeing the Wright brothers flying for the first time in North Carolina, shortly before the reemergence of the TRUE church of GOD.

Let me see if I can interpret it. :lol:

"Who".. not "what" but who as in a person, right? Which is the objective. Describing that he seen a "who" are "these"..describing several "these" that fly or are flying as a cloud flys in the sky.
Now.. these things that he is trying to describe have windows for the writter says they have a dove in their window. He seen something that resembled a bird and he describe it as a dove.
Wonder why a dove? Of all bird species.
We know the dove represents the Holy Spirit. But thats another thing. :lol:

I know I won't get on stage with this prophetic word but I'm trying. 8)

Posted: June 8th, 2006, 12:43 pm
by Brian
If you voted "I agree" to this post then you are an idiot, hands down, completely off your rocker.

Posted: June 8th, 2006, 1:59 pm
by Ginger
Brian wrote:If you voted "I agree" to this post then you are an idiot, hands down, completely off your rocker.


Pretty strong words of judgement by you dude, this is a free country, and everyone has the right to their opinon. Oh, I did'nt vote, could care less, but saw your post calling someone an idiot. My ole grandpappy would say, " Takes one to know one."

Posted: June 8th, 2006, 2:16 pm
by DaJudge
Ginger wrote:
Brian wrote:If you voted "I agree" to this post then you are an idiot, hands down, completely off your rocker.


Pretty strong words of judgement by you dude, this is a free country, and everyone has the right to their opinon.


Yes, everyone has a right to an opinion. Brian's opinion is that that if you believe this Bible verse was prophesying the coming of the Wright Brothers, then you are an idiot. I share that opinion with Brian. Grady Kent dreamed up that whole Wright Brothers thing so that he could get the church to pay for his aviation hobby and start up the White Angel Fleet.

When he was kicked out of COGOP, his new cult couldn't afford the airplanes so he swithched to motorcycles and dredged up another scripture to prophesy that.

Posted: June 8th, 2006, 2:43 pm
by Ginger
DaJudge wrote:
Ginger wrote:
Brian wrote:If you voted "I agree" to this post then you are an idiot, hands down, completely off your rocker.


Pretty strong words of judgement by you dude, this is a free country, and everyone has the right to their opinon.


Yes, everyone has a right to an opinion. Brian's opinion is that that if you believe this Bible verse was prophesying the coming of the Wright Brothers, then you are an idiot. I share that opinion with Brian.

So, does that make calling someone an idiot for thier understanding O.K. ?

Posted: June 8th, 2006, 3:56 pm
by Brian
Ginger wrote:
Brian wrote:If you voted "I agree" to this post then you are an idiot, hands down, completely off your rocker.


Pretty strong words of judgement by you dude, this is a free country, and everyone has the right to their opinon. Oh, I did'nt vote, could care less, but saw your post calling someone an idiot. My ole grandpappy would say, " Takes one to know one."


id·i·ot
n.
A foolish or stupid person.
A person of profound mental retardation having a mental age below three years and generally being unable to learn connected speech or guard against common dangers. The term belongs to a classification system no longer in use and is now considered offensive.

idiot

n : a person of subnormal intelligence

Ginger, those ARE strong words for an even STRONGER devient ideology that has, in the past, and continues in the present, to destroy the lives of earnest heart felt believers who seek after truth and wisdom and Godly understanding of scripture, only to be told that if they dont tow the line and follow the status quo of there little "select one fold" then you will be shunned, slandered, and eventually kicked out the door and thrown out on your rump.

That, my dear sister is the very definition of idiocy, sub normal intelligence. And that is what is expressed by anyone who voted that they agreed with the teaching.

"Takes on to know one"........oh Ginger, you have no idea! I have been in the way of untold idiocy and ignorance and plain old fashion stupidity more times than I care to say. But I am trying, even though not always so gracefully, to move past those ways.

Harsh? Maybe. Truth? You better believe it.

Posted: June 8th, 2006, 4:05 pm
by rough_rider
Careful Brian, what's the bible say about that type of name calling??
:wink:

Posted: June 8th, 2006, 4:21 pm
by Brian
rough_rider wrote:Careful Brian, what's the bible say about that type of name calling??
:wink:


ok ok , I admit, it was a bit harsh. :oops: but to be honest it was to try and draw out the folks who voted that they agreed with the teachings. Why dont they speak up?!! Cat got there tounge? :)

Posted: June 8th, 2006, 4:26 pm
by Gerald Creasy
Brian wrote:Cat got there tounge? :)


Cult. Not cat. Cult.

Posted: June 8th, 2006, 6:56 pm
by Full Quiver
Here is The Message interpretation fo said verse(s)

"What's that we see in the distance,
a cloud on the horizon, like doves darkening the sky?
It's ships from the distant islands,
the famous Tarshish ships
Returning your children from faraway places,
loaded with riches, with silver and gold,
And backed by the name of your God, The Holy of Israel,
showering you with splendor.




whatever? do ships have doves and clouds by their windows?


Question: Is it impossible that this scripture speaks of the Wright Brother's flight? Does the Bible not speak of any such events?

Posted: June 8th, 2006, 10:45 pm
by Brian
Full Quiver wrote:
Here is The Message interpretation to said verse(s)

"What's that we see in the distance,
a cloud on the horizon, like doves darkening the sky?
It's ships from the distant islands,
the famous Tarshish ships
Returning your children from faraway places,
loaded with riches, with silver and gold,
And backed by the name of your God, The Holy of Israel,
showering you with splendor.




whatever? do ships have doves and clouds by their windows?


Question: Is it impossible that this scripture speaks of the Wright Brother's flight? Does the Bible not speak of any such events?


Is it impossible? I suppose its not impossible for the scriptures to tell of the event of the first human flight experience, and the where and when's to that that are suppose to make the Wright Bro's flight in NC so important. But was it the first, and if not why so important to early COGOP?

http://mozajski.freewebspace.com/mozajski_uk.htm

Above is a link for your reading on the true first human aviation experience more than 20 years prior to the Wright Bro's flight.
So that eliminates the magical 1903 date and the mystical NC location as prophetic proof of that scripture being applied to the COGOP and Burger Mt.

(here is a snip from the site)

"The first official (demonstration) flight of the Możajski aeroplane took place in summer of 1882. So it was around 21 years before the famous flight of the aeroplane of the Wright Brothers from the USA, and also around 20 years before the first flight of the New Zealander named Richard Pearse. The fight of the Możajski aeroplane was observed by hundreds of witnesses, while the voluminous reports from this flight were published in newspapers of the Tsar Russia. The flight took place on a military range in the settlement called "Krasnoj Sielo" near Petersburg, in the Tsar Russia."

Take the flight and inventor however you want,....but if the info is true then the Wright Brothers and NC in that mystical time and place is false because it had already been done......(even if the WB did it better)