Stephen Baldwin's Testimony

Jennifer Smith · Postby **Jennifer Smith** » February 2nd, 2008, 4:01 am

In the Entertainment Forum the Celebrity Apprentice show is being talked about and I mentioned Stephen Baldwin's testimony. I have appreciated him so much on the show.

How do you feel he handled his convictions (and let's not be cynical or critical, I admire a person who tries to be a witness for Jesus) and how do you handle it when at work or with unbelievers? How do you walk the line between standing for your convictions and coming across as judgmental?

one love · Postby **one love** » February 2nd, 2008, 4:50 am

well I have to be honest the other night when he was a pat of the whole "spying" thing, he acted as if if was against it because of his convictions but then went and rubbed it in the girls faces over and over. Not to mention him cursing while talking about how upset he was becuase he is a christian. :wink:

I like him to but thought if he really was against that deal, he would not have enjoyed it so much. But his use of words a few times in the past episode made him look bad.

Jennifer Smith · Postby **Jennifer Smith** » February 2nd, 2008, 5:16 am

What words did he use? I must have missed that part.

I didn't see him rub it in, I thought he was pretty silent while Piers was kidding around with the ladies. I don't have any problem really with even what Piers did, I just thought it was great that Stephen brought up to Piers the subject of his salvation and he expressed that he thought they should stop spying and focus on their game. He could've been high and mighty self-righteous about Pier's tactics, but he quietly expressed his conviction and left it at that. That is a really difficult balance to strike.

At other times, he has diffused conflict, and been a peacemaker. When members of his team confronted Gene Simmons and Stephen about the editing process, and Gene began to stew and gripe, Stephen calmly said, "just, let it go. Don't even worry about it" restoring peace to the situation. He had a great rapport with Gene Simmons.

The TOPPER was when Stephen asked Trump if he had ever had to make a decision for the sake of business regardless if it would hurt someone, leaving Trump without comment. Stephen is there to be a witness, and I try to remember to pray for the Donald.

As Christians, it is really hard (impossible) to be a perfect witness, but Stephen demonstrates the joy of the Lord, excellence in his work, and a desire to let his light shine. That is what I appreciated.

Full Quiver · Postby **Full Quiver** » February 2nd, 2008, 5:58 am

I found Stephen to be very hypocritical. He says he was against the "spying" because he is a Christian but when Vinny threw the guys team the paperwork with the info on it Stephen put his foot over it. He was too holy to pick it up himself but went and got Lenox Lewis to pick it up. I mean come on. I won't rob a bank but I'll point the way, hold the door, and smile the entire time while so and so does, PLZ!

He took part in the spying, enjoyed it, and like alot of folks wore his faith on his sleeve and proved to be a hypocrite. Piers nailed him when he said don't get preachy with me I am a believer and faith has been a part of my life for all my life not just the last few years like you.

Baldwin did let a word of two fly and it appears that he is going to resign the next episode. Also when trump asked him who he would rather keep or work with he said Vinny over Piers yet when him and Piers were working together on this project he said we should go into business together, we will make trillions.

He assumed Trump would not partake of dirty business and when he asked Trump that question Donald smiled and said no comment. It didn't have a lick to do with Jesus. Trump was simply not incriminating himself. The entire thing made for good TV, was harmless, hilarious, but a couple of folks showed their true colors. Trump should have fired Vinny on the spot when he threatened to have 2 guys follow Piers back to England. Also Vinny played the race card when Piers called him an Italian yet all night Vinny called him a Brit. Vinny is a joke and thinks the Sopranos is his real life.

one love · Postby **one love** » February 2nd, 2008, 8:06 am

Full Quiver wrote:I found Stephen to be very hypocritical. He says he was against the "spying" because he is a Christian but when Vinny threw the guys team the paperwork with the info on it Stephen put his foot over it. He was too holy to pick it up himself but went and got Lenox Lewis to pick it up. I mean come on. I won't rob a bank but I'll point the way, hold the door, and smile the entire time while so and so does, PLZ!

He took part in the spying, enjoyed it, and like alot of folks wore his faith on his sleeve and proved to be a hypocrite. Piers nailed him when he said don't get preachy with me I am a believer and faith has been a part of my life for all my life not just the last few years like you.

Baldwin did let a word of two fly and it appears that he is going to resign the next episode. Also when trump asked him who he would rather keep or work with he said Vinny over Piers yet when him and Piers were working together on this project he said we should go into business together, we will make trillions.

He assumed Trump would not partake of dirty business and when he asked Trump that question Donald smiled and said no comment. It didn't have a lick to do with Jesus. Trump was simply not incriminating himself. The entire thing made for good TV, was harmless, hilarious, but a couple of folks showed their true colors. Trump should have fired Vinny on the spot when he threatened to have 2 guys follow Piers back to England. Also Vinny played the race card when Piers called him an Italian yet all night Vinny called him a Brit. Vinny is a joke and thinks the Sopranos is his real life.

He did exactly that. We look for clean tv and I know ther are going to be words in most tv, but as someone claiming to be born again and being preachy then let the A** word fly a few times and the other word they bleeped out so i dont know what that was but he let a few slip out. He enjoyed rubbing , what he said was wrong, in the girls faces by saying "share the love" IMHO

Jennifer Smith · Postby **Jennifer Smith** » February 2nd, 2008, 8:40 am

I did not hear him say a**... that is borderline, IMHO. It's good to talk about, though, I brought this up because I think it is a good topic for us who work in secular workplaces. I think he is doing a reasonably good job for someone who is a fairly new Christian, though I am a bit disappointed if he used that language. I have a friend at work who is a wonderful Spirit-filled Christian, but she doesn't always have the same standards about language that I do with those sort-of borderline words. She has the highest standards of work ethic and integrity in every area, but she also occasionally has a short temper.

I do think it is important for her and for all of us to think about what kind of testimony we are by our actions. Everyone should be able to tell we are Christians by our love and our good testimony.

BTW, I think next week Stephen will be switching to the ladies' team.

Full Quiver · Postby **Full Quiver** » February 2nd, 2008, 9:00 am

Stephen may be a babe but he presents himself as a veteran. He is on National TV and that's fine but instead of just being a Christian and working to be the Celebrity apprentice he is trying to show the world he's a Christian. He not only said A** but he dropped the f-bomb which was bleeped out. Somehow it's against his convictions to "spy" on a game show but he can use such language on National TV; I don't get it or approve of it.

He'd be better off leaving "Christianity" out of it. I never have to tell my boss I am a Christian or my co-workers in order for them to see that. Now if I am going to witness to them that's different, we have to open our mouths to do that, but company time is not the best time to do that usually if you want to be ethical. I know some like to say they get paid by the hour to witness but they should be working for that hourly pay instread.

Gerald Creasy · Postby **Gerald Creasy** » February 2nd, 2008, 10:20 am

From the little exposure I have had to Baldwin, he seems like he has a lot to learn.

But you have to give the guy a break he came a family so depraved his brothers celebrate their birthday by eating their Birthday meal off of naked women.

Ilovebigcats · Postby **Ilovebigcats** » February 2nd, 2008, 10:23 am

Gerald Creasy wrote:From the little exposure I have had to Baldwin, he seems like he has a lot to learn.

But you have to give the guy a break he came a family so depraved his brothers celebrate their birthday by eating their Birthday meal off of naked women.

[sarcasm]Mmmmm... tasty. [/sarcasm]

*dry heave*

I would have to agree there...

soulsearcher · Postby **soulsearcher** » February 2nd, 2008, 11:38 am

Oooooooooooo.... letting the "A" word fly... now that's just too far off the hook. :sb_arg:

Postby **Pastor Gary** » February 2nd, 2008, 12:07 pm

Gerald Creasy wrote:...celebrate their birthday by eating their Birthday meal off of naked women.

Won't you get thrown out of Cracker Barrel for that?? :shock:

Full Quiver · Postby **Full Quiver** » February 2nd, 2008, 12:52 pm

Oooooooooooo.... letting the "A" word fly... now that's just too far off the hook.

Soulsearcher, would you find it appropriate to let such language fly during one of your performances?

Postby **Pastor Gary** » February 2nd, 2008, 1:23 pm

Full Quiver wrote:Soulsearcher, would you find it appropriate to let such language fly during one of your performances?

FQ, do you disqualify someone from being a Christian for using that word?

Brenda · Postby **Brenda** » February 2nd, 2008, 1:31 pm

They say, it had to of been in there, else it wouldn't of come out.

one love · Postby **one love** » February 2nd, 2008, 1:40 pm

Pastor Gary wrote:
Full Quiver wrote:Soulsearcher, would you find it appropriate to let such language fly during one of your performances?

FQ, do you disqualify someone from being a Christian for using that word?

I know you asked FQ this but I certainly do believe someone produces fruits of a christian, not cursing, that wouldnt be guarding our conversation. Gary do you see nothing wrong with talking like that?

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