Whose got a NIV?

[Shellie]

I need a scripture passage from the NIV. I'm doing a comparison paper on versions and I need the scripture from Mark 9:29 about some demons only coming out by prayer and fasting.

Could someone directly quote the NIV version of that scripture for me? I need it word for word from the NIV. Thanks.

[dolfan]

Mark 9:29 (New International Version)
New International Version (NIV)
Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 by International Bible Society



29He replied, "This kind can come out only by prayer.[a]"

Footnotes:[a]Mark 9:29 Some manuscripts prayer and fasting

[crispfin]

29He replied, "This kind can come out only by prayer.[a]"

[Shellie]

Thanks guys!

[Gerald Creasy]

Is he saying these kind demons only come out by prayer and fasting or is he saying this kind of faith (needed to deal with the demons) comes out with prayer and fasting.

If demons took the command of Christ to come out, why would they be impressed with your prayer and fasting?

[crispfin]

If demons took the command of Christ to come out, why would they be impressed with your prayer and fasting?

They're not. That's why we need the holy water and crucifixes. It works on vampires too.

[Pastor Bill]

Um Shellie, just for future reference, the NIV is available at http://www.blueletterbible.org

[Paully_44]

Could someone directly quote the NIV version of that scripture for me? I need it word for word from the NIV. Thanks.

I use BibleGateway whenever I want to see different translations of verses. This site has many versions to choose from, including The Message, which is my preferred version.

[scooter]

If demons took the command of Christ to come out, why would they be impressed with your prayer and fasting?

Response: Are there those who are weak in the faith verses those who are stronger?

[Gerald Creasy]

If demons took the command of Christ to come out, why would they be impressed with your prayer and fasting?

Response: Are there those who are weak in the faith verses those who are stronger?

Is it on your strength the demon is exorcised or the strength of the one in whom you have faith?

[scooter]

If demons took the command of Christ to come out, why would they be impressed with your prayer and fasting?

Response: Are there those who are weak in the faith verses those who are stronger?

Is it on your strength the demon is exorcised or the strength of the one in whom you have faith?

Response: Is faith strength?

[Billy n NC]

Here you go in several versions

Mark 9:29
And he said unto them, This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting.(KJV)

Mark 9:29
He replied, "This kind can come out only by prayer."(NIV)

Mark 9:29
He answered, "There is no way to get rid of this kind of demon except by prayer."(MSG)

Mark 9:29
So He said to them, "This kind can come out by nothing but prayer and fasting."(NKJV)

Mark 9:29
And he said unto them, This kind can come out by nothing, save by prayer.(ASV)

[oletimer]

Mr 9:29 And he said unto them, This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer (proseuche) and (kai) fasting.(nesteia)

Strong's Greek Dictionary
4335. proseuche
 proseuche pros-yoo-khay'
from 4336; prayer (worship); by implication, an oratory (chapel):--X pray earnestly, prayer.

Strong's Greek Dictionary
3521. nesteia
 nesteia nace-ti'-ah
from 3522; abstinence (from lack of food, or voluntary and religious); specially, the fast of the Day of Atonement:-- fast(-ing).


2532. kai
 kai kahee
apparently, a primary particle, having a copulative and sometimes also a cumulative force; and, also, even, so then, too, etc.; often used in connection (or composition) with other particles or small words:--and, also, both, but, even, for, if, or, so, that, then, therefore, when, yet

In the original text the Greek word “kai” is used to join pray and fasting together. Do you ever wounder why they would to leave parts off or out?

PS found out that you can't copy original Greek words.

[mavislb]

I use http://www.crosswalk.com/. It has a lot of different versions you can use for comparison and a word search also.

[valley]

In the original text the Greek word “kai” is used to join pray and fasting together. Do you ever wounder why they would to leave parts off or out?

PS found out that you can't copy original Greek words.

This is just a guess, but I will guess that some translations leave out parts because those parts are missing from older, more reliable manuscripts. Of course, if you have the original copy, I guess that would settle the issue.