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Anyone ever read...

Posted: February 17th, 2008, 2:51 pm
by cndlou
Has anyone ever read the novel "All Quiet on the Western Front"...by Remarque... I am having to read it in a class that I am taking... We are having a test Thursday...and I can't find the answer to one of our study questions.... Can anyone help?????

Posted: February 17th, 2008, 4:13 pm
by TW
I read it about 40 years ago, so I don't know if I can be of any help. BTW, it's nice to see that they are still using the great literary classics. Next you need to read War And Peace.


TW

Posted: February 17th, 2008, 5:09 pm
by cndlou
Not on your life...this one has about killed me... :D I will take a chance that maybe you will remember... One of our study questions is... How and what did Paul's (the narrator) friend Stanislaus "Kat" Katczinsky compare war to in this book? I have read this book twice...and searched for the answer in it several times...and have also checked in CliffsNotes and also in Sparknotes.... and I can't find it.... :cry: I really hope you can help....

Posted: February 17th, 2008, 5:35 pm
by Shellie
cndlou,


Don't know if this is exactly what you are looking for or not. I'm thinking the answer might be the animal kindgom.


Indeed, Kat relates the entire climate of military power to the battles in the animal kingdom, and their attack on Himmelstoss is similarly animalistic. Kat's comment is important because not only are the front-line soldiers reduced to animalism in the military--we have already seen them eat and use the latrines like animals--but so are their leaders. The leaders are simply at the top of the food chain.


Himmelstoss's trial, on the other hand, seems distanced from these animalistic rites, but we should remember Kat's conjecture that power struggles in the military are like those of the animal world. The trial, then, is just a more civilized version of the battles fought in the animal world--as are, one might argue, all the large-scale battles being fought.

Posted: February 17th, 2008, 6:18 pm
by TW
cndlu,

it might very well be one of the things shellie mentioned, however I belive that what you are truly looking for is Kat's statement:
"...a declaration of war should be a kind of popular festival with entrance-tickets and bands like a bull fight...in the arena the ministers and generals of the two countries...can have it out among themselves."



TW

Posted: February 18th, 2008, 2:44 am
by cndlou
Thank you so much! I don't know what the "true" answer is but both of these could work... I will find where these statements are at an just study both... We are suppose (suppose being used very, very loosely with this instructor) to do a discussion on the novel before the test... If I know both examples, then when and if we discuss it... I can just do away with the one I don't need.... THANKS AGAIN!!!! (hundred times over)

Posted: February 18th, 2008, 1:29 pm
by crispfin
Next you need to read War And Peace.

Right on, that book is amazing.

Posted: February 18th, 2008, 3:08 pm
by cndlou
okay, can you tell me specific pages that you found this information... I am not being successful in finding "where" very easily or quickly....

Posted: February 18th, 2008, 5:31 pm
by Shellie
Chapters 3 and 4.

I give up!

Posted: February 19th, 2008, 3:32 pm
by cndlou
Okay, I give up... :D I can't find the places where your quotes came from Shellie... I did find the one that TW gave but I think it was Kropp that said that (not sure though)..... I have about worn the pages out in these couple of chapters...and either I have looked over the chapters so many times that I am just missing it...or they left them out of this book... :D Either way, I am just going to have to take you at your word.... Thanks for all the help....