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GM exec stands by calling global warming a "crock"
http://www.reuters.com/article/environm ... 22&sp=true

DETROIT (Reuters) - General Motors Corp Vice Chairman Bob Lutz has defended remarks he made dismissing global warming as a "total crock of s---,"

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Wow.. Bob Lutz is pretty big guy in the automotive world. Being a FORD man.. I've definitely "warmed up" to the GM brand because of his strong statement against man made Global Warming. We need more people that are not afraid to speak the truth.

He did acknowledge his personal views had no bearing on GM's commitment to build environmentally friendly vehicles (let the free market determine success). BUT you will find that this isn't enough. Global nutz will call for his head because he "thinks wrong". Feel the liberal love of narrow mindedness.

MacUser wrote:We need more people that are not afraid to speak the truth.

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Global nutz will call for his head because he "thinks wrong". Feel the liberal love of narrow mindedness.

Narrow mindedness plagues conservatives just as badly, my friend.

Do you subscribe to what you believe to be "truth" because you were spoon fed what to believe by the ultra neo-conservative crowd?

Evidence of global warming is all around us. Even though it's not anything near as bad as everyone says it is, it's still happening. Our actions have affected our environment, is that not correct?

Of course he is going with the thought of it being a crock, doesnt GM sell carbon monoxide producing cars?

EagerBeaver wrote:

MacUser wrote:We need more people that are not afraid to speak the truth.

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Global nutz will call for his head because he "thinks wrong". Feel the liberal love of narrow mindedness.

Narrow mindedness plagues conservatives just as badly, my friend.

Do you subscribe to what you believe to be "truth" because you were spoon fed what to believe by the ultra neo-conservative crowd?

Evidence of global warming is all around us. Even though it's not anything near as bad as everyone says it is, it's still happening. Our actions have affected our environment, is that not correct?

Newsflash: This world is finite (will end - burn up) and will end at some point. No environment remains constant or the same or ever has since God decided to make it. Am I stating be a bad steward.. abandon common sense? Absolutely not... but understand that this Global Warming fear is a slippery political slope that once established.. will need/require more and more of us to "solve".

My View: Is it warming? Possibly so.. because Is the sun hot? Does the Sun have cycles of warming and cooling? Has the earth ever cooled and warmed before? If it did cool and warm in it's history.. how did it do that? Did man's actions cause it then or not? Why is mars warming also? Did man cause that? Beam me up Scotty!!!

This isn't some neo-conservative position I stated above about warming.. it's common sense for those whom dare to entertain it and not buy into the political fear religion ...ahem.. crock.

According to the book of revelation the sun will be given power to make sores on the skin. Maybe the sun is gradually getting hotter.

WindSong wrote:According to the book of revelation the sun will be given power to make sores on the skin. Maybe the sun is gradually getting hotter.

Could that be called skin cancer???

The King James says ...
Revelation 16:8-9

8And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.

9And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.

The question is: will this happen suddenly, or build gradually?
I'm only asking..

MacUser wrote:My View: Is it warming? Possibly so.. because Is the sun hot? Does the Sun have cycles of warming and cooling? Has the earth ever cooled and warmed before? If it did cool and warm in it's history.. how did it do that? Did man's actions cause it then or not? Why is mars warming also? Did man cause that? Beam me up Scotty!!!

This isn't some neo-conservative position I stated above about warming.. it's common sense for those whom dare to entertain it and not buy into the political fear religion ...ahem.. crock.

You still didn't answer my question.

Our actions as a human race have affected our environment, have they not?

It has just as much to do with the sun alone as I do a Republican getting elected president.

December 12, 2012

Google it!

Blow off all the Mayan superstition!

Examine the astronomical data!

Some interesting things are going to happen, but I doubt it's the end of the world.


TW

TW wrote:December 12, 2012

Google it!

Blow off all the Mayan superstition!

Examine the astronomical data!

Some interesting things are going to happen, but I doubt it's the end of the world.


TW

If the end of the world/Armageddon is in 2012 and the mid-tribs are right, this coming June should be the time of the Rapture/catching away...

EagerBeaver wrote:

MacUser wrote:My View: Is it warming? Possibly so.. because Is the sun hot? Does the Sun have cycles of warming and cooling? Has the earth ever cooled and warmed before? If it did cool and warm in it's history.. how did it do that? Did man's actions cause it then or not? Why is mars warming also? Did man cause that? Beam me up Scotty!!!

This isn't some neo-conservative position I stated above about warming.. it's common sense for those whom dare to entertain it and not buy into the political fear religion ...ahem.. crock.

You still didn't answer my question.

Our actions as a human race have affected our environment, have they not?

It has just as much to do with the sun alone as I do a Republican getting elected president.

Absolutely, I would say in a positive manner. Dams, Bridges, Roads & recycle etc. Sure helps me when I want to get to the mall. But you are attempting to say that we are causing world wide chaos by doing the above.. when we are just a much a natural part of this element than anything else that was put here by God almighty.

The thing is if we wanted to raise the earth's temps because it would SAVE the world from the next coming ice age.. we couldn't do it. We couldn't make a dent in this planet temperatures or weather patterns (other than extreme nuclear power and that would only be temporary)

Btw.. the SUN is the main source of total energy for this planet as for the rest of the planets (ahem - Warming also ) circling it. If it gets hotter.. we instantly will also... no matter whom we elect.

It's a crock. Don't bow at that alter.

I agree Mac

Look at this sight about increasing glaciers

http://www.iceagenow.com/Growing_Glaciers.htm

MacUser wrote:

EagerBeaver wrote:

MacUser wrote:My View: Is it warming? Possibly so.. because Is the sun hot? Does the Sun have cycles of warming and cooling? Has the earth ever cooled and warmed before? If it did cool and warm in it's history.. how did it do that? Did man's actions cause it then or not? Why is mars warming also? Did man cause that? Beam me up Scotty!!!

This isn't some neo-conservative position I stated above about warming.. it's common sense for those whom dare to entertain it and not buy into the political fear religion ...ahem.. crock.

You still didn't answer my question.

Our actions as a human race have affected our environment, have they not?

It has just as much to do with the sun alone as I do a Republican getting elected president.

Absolutely, I would say in a positive manner. Dams, Bridges, Roads & recycle etc. Sure helps me when I want to get to the mall. But you are attempting to say that we are causing world wide chaos by doing the above.. when we are just a much a natural part of this element than anything else that was put here by God almighty.

The thing is if we wanted to raise the earth's temps because it would SAVE the world from the next coming ice age.. we couldn't do it. We couldn't make a dent in this planet temperatures or weather patterns (other than extreme nuclear power and that would only be temporary)

Btw.. the SUN is the main source of total energy for this planet as for the rest of the planets (ahem - Warming also ) circling it. If it gets hotter.. we instantly will also... no matter whom we elect.

It's a crock. Don't bow at that alter.

What about industrial pollution and waste in our rivers and streams, unrecyclable and non-biodegradable materials, oil spills, etc. True we have positively impacted our environment to an extent but we also negatively affect our world as well.

Like I said, global warming is nothing what the media makes it out to be but we should be on alert, given man's ability he has already shown to kill flora and fauna with his inventions over time.

EagerBeaver wrote:
What about industrial pollution and waste in our rivers and streams, unrecyclable and non-biodegradable materials, oil spills, etc. True we have positively impacted our environment to an extent but we also negatively affect our world as well..

This isn't Global Warming. We can agree to be good stewards and enforce the laws already in place.

MacUser wrote:

EagerBeaver wrote:
What about industrial pollution and waste in our rivers and streams, unrecyclable and non-biodegradable materials, oil spills, etc. True we have positively impacted our environment to an extent but we also negatively affect our world as well..

This isn't Global Warming. We can agree to be good stewards and enforce the laws already in place.

But they are contributing factors. Especially the pollution part. What we release into the atmosphere does have the capability to affect things for the worse. When you see clouds in the sky that isn't actually a cloud but smoke and smog from your local textile factory, the result can't be good.