Jude 2

I wanna hear everyone's thoughts and opinions on today, the 5th anniversary of the war in Iraq. Are we better off as a nation than before we began military action in Iraq? Should we or shouldn't we be there?

Me, my personal opinion, having been over there myself...we have to have something to show for nearly 4,000 of America's soldiers, young and old, being killed babysitting a civil war. And the worst part of it is, these soldiers are being killed by roadside bombs, not live fire.

We have a deficient transportation infrastructure, our economy is headed for a recession...why the heck are we in Iraq? Iraq never struck us or had weapons of mass destruction.

It seems to me the mission over in Afghanistan (which should be a bit more important) is lost in all this.

EagerBeaver wrote: Iraq never ........had weapons of mass destruction.

Tell that to the entire valley of Kurds decimated with poison gas.

This might be a reason why. Possibly.

Gerald Creasy wrote:

EagerBeaver wrote: Iraq never ........had weapons of mass destruction.

Tell that to the entire valley of Kurds decimated with poison gas.

I should clarify myself. Not since we invaded them in 2003 have we found any WMDs.

Back in the 80s and 90s it was a TOTALLY different story.

Eager understand this so you're not headed for a huge expectation let down. Even if Obama gets it. We'll still be there a loooonnnng time.

This is the same story the Liberals sung to win back the house and senate.
Don't be used.

EagerBeaver wrote:

Gerald Creasy wrote:

EagerBeaver wrote: Iraq never ........had weapons of mass destruction.

Tell that to the entire valley of Kurds decimated with poison gas.

I should clarify myself. Not since we invaded them in 2003 have we found any WMDs.

Back in the 80s and 90s it was a TOTALLY different story.

Saddam and his two sons were weapons of mass destruction.

Pastor Gary wrote:

EagerBeaver wrote:

Gerald Creasy wrote:

EagerBeaver wrote: Iraq never ........had weapons of mass destruction.

Tell that to the entire valley of Kurds decimated with poison gas.

I should clarify myself. Not since we invaded them in 2003 have we found any WMDs.

Back in the 80s and 90s it was a TOTALLY different story.

Saddam and his two sons were weapons of mass destruction.

Amen!

Pastor Gary wrote:

Saddam and his two sons were weapons of mass destruction.

'Nuff said.

Shellie wrote:Pastor Gary wrote:

Saddam and his two sons were weapons of mass destruction.

'Nuff said.

as long as we get the oil, and our gas prices don't go over $3 a gallon...
oh, wait.

Chris, I really do sympathize. I don't know of many people who do want war. We all hope for an end to it, but not just an end for an end's sake, making things worse than before. When you were there, you told us about all the good things going on that media doesn't report and I just have to believe that's the case.

MacUser wrote:Eager understand this so you're not headed for a huge expectation let down. Even if Obama gets it. We'll still be there a loooonnnng time.

This is the same story the Liberals sung to win back the house and senate.
Don't be used.

I understand this. The next president, the president afterward, and possibly even the president after the next president won't be able to pull us out. We've dug too deep a hole.

We CAN start laying the groundwork to get us out though.

Maybe if the Liberals sang that story to win back the house and senate, as you say, then maybe that says Americans -- and dare I say it, right wingers are getting tired of it too?

How come we never get a straight answer as to why we are staying in Iraq? President Bush the other day: "let's stay the course." Dickie Dick Cheney: "We aren't pulling out...stay the course."

Stay the course? WHAT FOR?

"Don't be used"??? I'm not being "used." I just happen to be a conservative who refuses to open my mouth when force fed the Republican Party's Kool-aid. (Same with the Democratic Party's as well.)

Our country is screwed until Bush gets out. Let's see what the next President has in store for us, oh joy.

DeWayne wrote:Chris, I really do sympathize. I don't know of many people who do want war. We all hope for an end to it, but not just an end for an end's sake, making things worse than before. When you were there, you told us about all the good things going on that media doesn't report and I just have to believe that's the case.

Yeah I did see a ton of good things going on over there. However there's a good percentage of stuff our country is helping them rebuild (Your Tax Dollars Hard At Work! ) that insurgents just go on and sabotage. Yes we are helping poor and needy citizens, yes we are trying to provide a better way of life for them...but we have needy people in our own backyard.

Iraq doesn't want us there. There was a time where a co-worker of mine was riding through Sadr City in a convoy and was met with kids kicking up dust, adults throwing rocks at our humvees and shouting what our interpreter said was a slogan similar to "infidels go home." If they had guns it would have been tragic.

Simply put, the US is not the world's police, and the fact that we have a history of beleiving we are is coming back to bite us.

EagerBeaver wrote:Iraq doesn't want us there. There was a time where a co-worker of mine was riding through Sadr City in a convoy and was met with kids kicking up dust, adults throwing rocks at our humvees and shouting what our interpreter said was a slogan similar to "infidels go home." If they had guns it would have been tragic.

Simply put, the US is not the world's police, and the fact that we have a history of beleiving we are is coming back to bite us.

Response: When there are in existence arms which can alter the face of the world forever someone should be the "worlds police".

BTW I could get the same treatment riding in a police car in south St. Pete. should we not police there either?

CantBCoy wrote:This might be a reason why. Possibly.

now this is the most important thing i have seen posted. Before Iraq we had no real strong way to enter in iran , Iraq was a place for us to be able to launch against anyone in the middle east if neccessary but it has placed us on each side of iran. Good post

scooter wrote:

EagerBeaver wrote:Iraq doesn't want us there. There was a time where a co-worker of mine was riding through Sadr City in a convoy and was met with kids kicking up dust, adults throwing rocks at our humvees and shouting what our interpreter said was a slogan similar to "infidels go home." If they had guns it would have been tragic.

Simply put, the US is not the world's police, and the fact that we have a history of beleiving we are is coming back to bite us.

Response: When there are in existence arms which can alter the face of the world forever someone should be the "worlds police".

BTW I could get the same treatment riding in a police car in south St. Pete. should we not police there either?

we have to be able to look ahead and prevent further problems. Like scooter said, just imagine nukes in the hands of these radicals. Iran will be a problem not if but when. They were a problem before 9-11 and are going to be a problem regardless of what we do.
I know some feel if we just leave them alone they will go away, well that was clintons theory and it didnt work.