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Computer Help PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Posted: March 20th, 2008, 1:35 pm
by KBevangelist
I having computer problems again.

I know I have viruses. Is there away I can check to see what is on my computer and delete it?

My anti virus programs have been disabled. I cannot save anything to jumpdrives or disc. These viruses also keep shorting out my computer fan (which I have replaced), battery and power cord. I had this fixed and the guy told me I needed to have the viruses taken off, but have not had the time to do it. If I know where to look I can do it myself which would save a lot of money.

Help

KB

Can't even say it

Posted: March 20th, 2008, 1:42 pm
by Pastor Gary
(get a Mac)

Posted: March 20th, 2008, 2:04 pm
by TW
Why are you running without an anti-virus program???


TW

Posted: March 20th, 2008, 2:11 pm
by KBevangelist
TW wrote:Why are you running without an anti-virus program???


TW


I have two running, but whatever viruses are on here have disabled them.

Posted: March 20th, 2008, 2:15 pm
by Susie Hamilton
What 2 virus programs do you have? Some of them can react to each other and cause problems. They conflict.

Posted: March 20th, 2008, 3:31 pm
by RamboPreacher
PG's advice may be somethign to consider, especially with what I am going to say:

the first thing is that a virus on a PC can not affect the hardware (that I am aware of, and since the programmatic issues of the ancient appleII's, not the IIe's). if you are having a fan problem, that is a hardware issue, and decidedly not a virus issue.

I have commented before that I wonder how "normal" people can keep their Wintel boxes virus and malware-free. in fact recent posts by others here tell me that they can't.

If you are running two antivirus programs and they are both disabled, this too can be a hardware issue that is causing corrupted files, though most likely an extreme case of virus/trojan/malware of one kind or another.

last time I cleaned my old-pastor's computer of spyware (malware), he had nearly 5000 entries of files and registry entries that were running and active.

besides your hardware issue that could be power supply or motherboard (main circuit on the computer), you are probably also filled with malware. especially ones that specifically attack anti-virus applications.

I don't know what you have, but my suggestion has always been that if you can afford to buy a computer then you should be able to afford to BUY an anti virus application and the subscription to keep it updated weekly and even daily if necessary.

I have never seen an antivirus (purchased) application like Mcafee or Symantec AV be directly attacked and disabled, I have seen hardware issues cause corruption of their files so that they get disabled, however.

based on your descriptions, it sounds like the malware is the least of your worries (not that, I mean to minimalize that issue), and that you are having system failures as well.

how old is your computer? if it is older than a year (for a "normal computer), then you should have used it enough to justify it's use and another might be the best solution.

If you don't want to go that route just yet, you may need to do what you can to back up your data, and use the system restore that probably came with the computer to restore it to manufacture-initialized state.

probably not what you want to hear. if you have hours and hours of time, you could try to download (on another virus and malware-free computer), a couple anti-spyware applications, like adaware, and spybot; then burn them to CD and try to install them on your infected system, if it will allow it. same thing for AV - if you have purchased an AV program, you will want to try to uninstall it from your infected computer (if possible), and then reinstall from original media/CD's.

good luck. :)

Posted: March 20th, 2008, 3:53 pm
by KBevangelist
RamboPreacher wrote:PG's advice may be somethign to consider, especially with what I am going to say:

the first thing is that a virus on a PC can not affect the hardware (that I am aware of, and since the programmatic issues of the ancient appleII's, not the IIe's). if you are having a fan problem, that is a hardware issue, and decidedly not a virus issue.

I have commented before that I wonder how "normal" people can keep their Wintel boxes virus and malware-free. in fact recent posts by others here tell me that they can't.

If you are running two antivirus programs and they are both disabled, this too can be a hardware issue that is causing corrupted files, though most likely an extreme case of virus/trojan/malware of one kind or another.

last time I cleaned my old-pastor's computer of spyware (malware), he had nearly 5000 entries of files and registry entries that were running and active.

besides your hardware issue that could be power supply or motherboard (main circuit on the computer), you are probably also filled with malware. especially ones that specifically attack anti-virus applications.

I don't know what you have, but my suggestion has always been that if you can afford to buy a computer then you should be able to afford to BUY an anti virus application and the subscription to keep it updated weekly and even daily if necessary.

I have never seen an antivirus (purchased) application like Mcafee or Symantec AV be directly attacked and disabled, I have seen hardware issues cause corruption of their files so that they get disabled, however.

based on your descriptions, it sounds like the malware is the least of your worries (not that, I mean to minimalize that issue), and that you are having system failures as well.

how old is your computer? if it is older than a year (for a "normal computer), then you should have used it enough to justify it's use and another might be the best solution.

If you don't want to go that route just yet, you may need to do what you can to back up your data, and use the system restore that probably came with the computer to restore it to manufacture-initialized state.

probably not what you want to hear. if you have hours and hours of time, you could try to download (on another virus and malware-free computer), a couple anti-spyware applications, like adaware, and spybot; then burn them to CD and try to install them on your infected system, if it will allow it. same thing for AV - if you have purchased an AV program, you will want to try to uninstall it from your infected computer (if possible), and then reinstall from original media/CD's.

good luck. :)


Rambo, with all due respect, I appreciate the sermon.

I did BUY, Mcafee and AVG.

Us "normal" people are capable of running computers as well. I know that is shocking :twisted:

I have a dell inspirion 1000 it is 4 years old.

KB

Posted: March 20th, 2008, 3:59 pm
by RamboPreacher
I am truly sorry that I apparently offended you, I will bow out - my apologies, again.

Posted: March 20th, 2008, 7:24 pm
by Billy n NC
KB, there comes a time you have to cry UNCLE.

When you have the difficulties that you are describing

Sometimes you have to Scrape it clean and do a frest install.

This is a good thing to do every year or so. Mine is due.

Here is my process.

Take the Hard Drive out and install in a 2nd box with a CD burner.
(can be had for less than $100) if you do not have one.

Copy Your Documents/videos/pics/ songs etc onto a CD (Multiple if necessary) Then Fdisk/format the original disk and do a reinstall.

If you computer has a Recovery Drive or CDs. Way Kewl.

Get your data off and Recover.

Once a computer gets infected like you describel this is the best way. I have tried for customers to do it the hard way. Search and destroy Malware/virus etc.

Oh remember this I am 87 miles away.

Posted: March 21st, 2008, 4:24 am
by KBevangelist
Billy n NC wrote:KB, there comes a time you have to cry UNCLE.

When you have the difficulties that you are describing

Sometimes you have to Scrape it clean and do a frest install.

This is a good thing to do every year or so. Mine is due.

Here is my process.

Take the Hard Drive out and install in a 2nd box with a CD burner.
(can be had for less than $100) if you do not have one.

Copy Your Documents/videos/pics/ songs etc onto a CD (Multiple if necessary) Then Fdisk/format the original disk and do a reinstall.

If you computer has a Recovery Drive or CDs. Way Kewl.

Get your data off and Recover.

Once a computer gets infected like you describel this is the best way. I have tried for customers to do it the hard way. Search and destroy Malware/virus etc.

Oh remember this I am 87 miles away.


Billy,

Will you be at the Camp Staff Training next weekend?

KB

Posted: March 21st, 2008, 4:27 am
by KBevangelist
RamboPreacher wrote:I am truly sorry that I apparently offended you, I will bow out - my apologies, again.


Rambo,

You did not offend me. So no need to apologize

KB

Posted: March 21st, 2008, 5:05 am
by Pastor Bill
KBevangelist wrote:
TW wrote:Why are you running without an anti-virus program???


TW


I have two running, but whatever viruses are on here have disabled them.


Actually having two of them is what has disabled them, they don't play well together, keep the best one and remove the other.

Posted: March 21st, 2008, 8:17 am
by Billy n NC
Yes Sir, Planning on being there.

may be coming to The Rock tomorrow. UMMM

Posted: March 21st, 2008, 9:48 am
by KBevangelist
Billy n NC wrote:Yes Sir, Planning on being there.

may be coming to The Rock tomorrow. UMMM


Hey Billy,

I have an Easter Egg Hunt and a cookout tomorrow.

I will be at the camp training.

Check your pm

KB

Posted: March 23rd, 2008, 1:47 pm
by Alan
Moved too far off so now you gotta find someone else to fix your computer huh? I do have to agree with Rambo, I don't know of any viruses that cause hardware damage.

Billy, the last time I had a chance to look at his computer it was eat up and I didn't have time to do a thorough cleaning. If it's not having hardware problems it may be best to back it up, format and reinstall.