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Today's Easter Sermon Was Awesome

Posted: March 23rd, 2008, 4:04 pm
by pastorables
Our pastor preached an Easter sermon that I have not considered very much, "The Napkin Is Still Folded". He spoke on the significance of the folded napkin found in the tomb and how Jesus used that as a way to say, "I'm not finished yet". It was a great sermon.

pa

Posted: March 23rd, 2008, 5:07 pm
by CantBCoy
I've read a few different articles and teachings about Christ living His rabbinic prayer shawl folded in a way that pronounces His return. I'm assuming this is the same thought. Anyone else ever read about or studied this much and know of the historical proof of what was actually left in the tomb after the resurrection?

Posted: March 23rd, 2008, 5:21 pm
by pastorables
John 20:6-7 Then cometh Simon Peter following him, and went into the sepulchre, and seeth the linen clothes lie, And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself.

Posted: March 23rd, 2008, 5:23 pm
by CantBCoy
I guess what I'm most curious about is the evidence describing the type and direction of the fold because that would be the most important part of the discussion.

Posted: March 23rd, 2008, 5:29 pm
by Jennifer Smith
Someone told me about the folded napkin today.. they had learned it from an email.

Again, I am always skeptical about the emails. :)

I am wondering, how does a principle of a folded napkin used during a meal, apply to a burial cloth?

Posted: March 23rd, 2008, 5:34 pm
by pastorables
Jennifer Smith wrote:I am wondering, how does a principle of a folded napkin used during a meal, apply to a burial cloth?


Maybe nothing? However, I do think that the fact the napkin was wrapped (folded) by itself apart from the other grave clothes holds significance. It is possible I suppose that it was a message for the disciples only.

Posted: March 23rd, 2008, 5:36 pm
by CantBCoy
If it is his rabbinical prayer shawl as opposed to a burial napkin, as must be assumed if we're speaking of Christ leaving a message to his disciples, then depending on the fold of the shawl it announces whether the rabbi will return or not. That is if what I've heard is indeed true, I have never really taken the time to REALLY study it.

Posted: March 23rd, 2008, 5:46 pm
by pastorables
CantBCoy wrote:If it is his rabbinical prayer shawl as opposed to a burial napkin, as must be assumed if we're speaking of Christ leaving a message to his disciples, then depending on the fold of the shawl it announces whether the rabbi will return or not. That is if what I've heard is indeed true, I have never really taken the time to REALLY study it.


I'm not sure it was a prayer shawl. From an honest reading of the text, it appears to be a literal burial napkin used to cover the face of the dead. The fact that Christ took time to fold it (or maybe the angel folded it) would mean something wouldn't it?

Posted: March 23rd, 2008, 5:51 pm
by Jennifer Smith
It must mean something, having been recorded in scripture that specifically.

Posted: March 23rd, 2008, 5:51 pm
by CantBCoy
I personally wouldn't be certain that simply folding a death napkin would mean anything, but it's my opinion. I mean if other people raised from the dead on a consistent basis we might have formed a resurrection etiquette. I have difficulty understanding the purpose of a folded death covering based on mere speculation.

I'm simply editing to add the following thought.

It could have simply been left as proof that the body wasn't stolen. If the body had been taken from the tomb by His Jewish followers I don't believe they would have directly touched His body. but would have taken Him away in the death shroud or napkin.

Posted: March 23rd, 2008, 5:56 pm
by pastorables
CantBCoy wrote: I have difficulty understanding the purpose of a folded death covering based on mere speculation.


I see it differently. Christ was resurrecting from the dead with many chores left on earth, not to mention running the universe, and he takes time to fold his burial napkin? 8) If nothing more, it could have been to say, "hey guys, my body wasn't taken... look I folded the napkin". I realize it calls for conjecture, but still the folded death napkin of Christ would seem to be more significant than say the folded death napkin of Lazarus.

pa