Jude 2

is heroin, cocaine and other narcotic drugs a sin? PLease explain your answer.

one love wrote:is heroin, cocaine and other narcotic drugs a sin? Please explain your answer.

yes, to me (and everyone in America) they are a sin. they are illegal.

"what if" they weren't? that is a what-if question and all the variables aren't available, so I will give no answer, but will give another what if:
What if an orange tasted like the sound of a falling tree?

RamboPreacher wrote:

one love wrote:is heroin, cocaine and other narcotic drugs a sin? Please explain your answer.

yes, to me (and everyone in America) they are a sin. they are illegal.

"what if" they weren't? that is a what-if question and all the variables aren't available, so I will give no answer, but will give another what if:
What if an orange tasted like the sound of a falling tree?

well rambo is it safe to say then illegal gambling is a sin because in most states it is illegal....

YellowRose wrote: Illegal drugs are just that, illegal. So if someone is doing them they are breaking the law, thus sin.

Now I have a question, what about legal drugs, those prescriptions that the doctor hands out and the saintly men and woman of your church may take. Maybe a tranquilizer, or a sleeping pill, or even a pain killer. Those are addictive, I've seen many of these men and woman in churches rely on these drugs to make it through a day. In your eyes, aren't they sinning as much as I am when I go to the casino or have a glass of wine at night to help me sleep?


Let me add this footnote: I, in NO way think taking prescribed drugs is wrong. People need medication, I have a few I have to take daily.

now i have not said the sin was in addiction , yet it plays into it, someone else posted that was my view but treating pain and getting high are diferent and there is nothing wrong with that. I suffer from severe pain, extreme pain and i have had to take medicine.
Those that take narcotic pain killers for false reasons are as much a sinner as illegl drugs but if they are in real pain that is different, the body can only take so much pain before one starts to shut down. It effects the heart, depression, high blood pressure etc..

one love wrote:

YellowRose wrote: Illegal drugs are just that, illegal. So if someone is doing them they are breaking the law, thus sin.

Now I have a question, what about legal drugs, those prescriptions that the doctor hands out and the saintly men and woman of your church may take. Maybe a tranquilizer, or a sleeping pill, or even a pain killer. Those are addictive, I've seen many of these men and woman in churches rely on these drugs to make it through a day. In your eyes, aren't they sinning as much as I am when I go to the casino or have a glass of wine at night to help me sleep?


Let me add this footnote: I, in NO way think taking prescribed drugs is wrong. People need medication, I have a few I have to take daily.

now i have not said the sin was in addiction , yet it plays into it, someone else posted that was my view but treating pain and getting high are diferent and there is nothing wrong with that. I suffer from severe pain, extreme pain and i have had to take medicine.
Those that take narcotic pain killers for false reasons are as much a sinner as illegl drugs but if they are in real pain that is different, the body can only take so much pain before one starts to shut down. It effects the heart, depression, high blood pressure etc..

To go a bit further then, you admit that you suffer from severe pain and have to take medication. Many people are in the same boat, a few years back I was in that boat. People who suffer from severe pain, debilitating pain and have to take medication to get through each day often become addicted to their medications. Do you consider them a sinner then?

So if one moves to Amsterdam then smoking pot is no longer sinful?

Full Quiver wrote:So if I move to Amsterdam then smoking pot is no longer sinful?

Since it is a LEGAL medicine here in CA, then it's not "sinful" here with a Dr. prescription.

I know, I know, I know. It's me again.



Before anyone jumps, let me remind you that I take a very high dosage and quantity of a narcotic pain medicine every day of my life just to funciton. I can't legally take a higher dosage or a higher quantity. So, I am definitely not condemning.

one love wrote:

RamboPreacher wrote:

one love wrote:is heroin, cocaine and other narcotic drugs a sin? Please explain your answer.

yes, to me (and everyone in America) they are a sin. they are illegal.

"what if" they weren't? that is a what-if question and all the variables aren't available, so I will give no answer, but will give another what if:
What if an orange tasted like the sound of a falling tree?

well rambo is it safe to say then illegal gambling is a sin because in most states it is illegal....

agreed, but based on the definitions of what gambling is for those states, they are listed. Some states allow lottery, and not horse racing. Some states allow slots, and dog racing. this is an individual state legality issue, not an overarching doctrinal statement.

Full Quiver wrote:So if one moves to Amsterdam then smoking pot is no longer sinful?

it is then no longer illegal, in this what if scenario. It would remain sin for me (because I know me and I would be not only addicted, but it might affect my family as well), but I would NOT make a statement that it is sin for EVERYONE. this is an issue of personal relationship and holiness with God.

YellowRose wrote:

one love wrote:

YellowRose wrote: Illegal drugs are just that, illegal. So if someone is doing them they are breaking the law, thus sin.

Now I have a question, what about legal drugs, those prescriptions that the doctor hands out and the saintly men and woman of your church may take. Maybe a tranquilizer, or a sleeping pill, or even a pain killer. Those are addictive, I've seen many of these men and woman in churches rely on these drugs to make it through a day. In your eyes, aren't they sinning as much as I am when I go to the casino or have a glass of wine at night to help me sleep?


Let me add this footnote: I, in NO way think taking prescribed drugs is wrong. People need medication, I have a few I have to take daily.

now i have not said the sin was in addiction , yet it plays into it, someone else posted that was my view but treating pain and getting high are diferent and there is nothing wrong with that. I suffer from severe pain, extreme pain and i have had to take medicine.
Those that take narcotic pain killers for false reasons are as much a sinner as illegl drugs but if they are in real pain that is different, the body can only take so much pain before one starts to shut down. It effects the heart, depression, high blood pressure etc..

To go a bit further then, you admit that you suffer from severe pain and have to take medication. Many people are in the same boat, a few years back I was in that boat. People who suffer from severe pain, debilitating pain and have to take medication to get through each day often become addicted to their medications. Do you consider them a sinner then?

i feel the one would need help now there is a difference from being "physically depedent" and an "addict" if one is truly addicted they show signs of going to multiple doctors, run out of medicne days instead of months will steal and then yes they are in sin.Not to mention they would have to lie to keep up there habut, that alone is sinful.
There are many medicines one would need to ween off of but they are not and show no signs of being an addict, that is the difference that i conclude with those i know that have to take it all the time. Some can take there medicine as prescribed with no problems but would need to ween off them. I will not critisize one from taking medication eitther i have had to.

why would drunkardness be a sin but being high not be if it were legal????

How about food? It can be addictive...It is something that you must have to sustain life...The Bible talks about gluttony but I know a lot of "fat" preachers who are struggling to breath while they preach and then go out to eat afterwards and pack on more pounds.

Where does it stop?

free wrote:How about food? It can be addictive...It is something that you must have to sustain life...The Bible talks about gluttony but I know a lot of "fat" preachers who are struggling to breath while they preach and then go out to eat afterwards and pack on more pounds.

Where does it stop?

free wrote:How about food? It can be addictive...It is something that you must have to sustain life...The Bible talks about gluttony but I know a lot of "fat" preachers who are struggling to breath while they preach and then go out to eat afterwards and pack on more pounds.

Where does it stop?

well we could start at answering the question