Jude 2

Do you think it is possible to have a global famine today like in Biblical times? With crazy weather and crops doing bad and prices getting higher....

Just wondering your thoughts. I have seen a lot of articles lately on food shortage and prices.. do you think we could be headed that way? Do you have any stocked cans and such? Would you consider stocking piling?

I've stockpiled internally. I'll be around for a while.

Ilovebigcats wrote:Do you think it is possible to have a global famine today like in Biblical times? With crazy weather and crops doing bad and prices getting higher....

Just wondering your thoughts. I have seen a lot of articles lately on food shortage and prices.. do you think we could be headed that way? Do you have any stocked cans and such? Would you consider stocking piling?

Possible ? absoultely Probable ? Not sure. But I do believe we will come to a point where battles and wars will be fought over food. Where deveopling countries will not longer sit idle and watch starvation destroy them while others have an abundance.

Don't stockpile..... I believe that God is my provider and my trust is in Him

Ilovebigcats wrote:Do you think it is possible to have a global famine today like in Biblical times? With crazy weather and crops doing bad and prices getting higher....

Just wondering your thoughts. I have seen a lot of articles lately on food shortage and prices.. do you think we could be headed that way? Do you have any stocked cans and such? Would you consider stocking piling?

If so, it will likely be a famine born of abundance, not of lack. As more of the world is joining us in overconsumption more food is being turned into fuel and meat. There's still plenty for us who are relatively wealthy (even if prices are higher) to fill our gas tanks and eat luxuriously, but we're leaving less and less for those who just struggle to fill their bellies. Of course, if the predictions of global warming are as bad as we're told there may be actual lack, especially of water.

But I repeat Paul...

Joseph stockpiled and it not only fed Egypt but his entire family. God essentially told him to stockpile via the visions/dreams.

Full Quiver wrote:Joseph stockpiled and it not only fed Egypt but his entire family. God essentially told him to stockpile via the visions/dreams.

Yes, he did it as he was led to by God, if God leads me, I'll stockpile, till then, I'll use what I have and share with those that need. I have no promise of tomorrow, wasn't it also told of a very rich man who stockpiled in times of wealth and celebrated his need for larger barns? Wasn't he chastised for focusing on accumulated wealth and goods when his own life would not last the night?

We have to put things in context, if God leads you to stockpile, great, but it's not really a biblical principle we all need to observe either.

Pastor Bill wrote:

Full Quiver wrote:Joseph stockpiled and it not only fed Egypt but his entire family. God essentially told him to stockpile via the visions/dreams.

Yes, he did it as he was led to by God, if God leads me, I'll stockpile, till then, I'll use what I have and share with those that need. I have no promise of tomorrow, wasn't it also told of a very rich man who stockpiled in times of wealth and celebrated his need for larger barns? Wasn't he chastised for focusing on accumulated wealth and goods when his own life would not last the night?

We have to put things in context, if God leads you to stockpile, great, but it's not really a biblical principle we all need to observe either.

I have a hard time accepting this as a biblical principle. Nowhere does the Bible teach me to grocery shop yet I do. Nowhere does the Bible teach me to brush my teeth yet I do. There are just some good common sense stuff that we do that has nothing to do with Biblical Principles. Sorry but this has that TCoG scented breath when ever I hear that. Save up for a rainy day. Save up for a famine. Why would you not? Your children may thank you for it. If not... hey, we can have a big Jude2 party. Or heck, feed some homeless people... there are many waiting for God to provide for them... maybe it's you he is waiting to use.

Tangent... sorry... just seems silly to need a nod from God to have extra food for any type of emergency.

Ilovebigcats wrote:

Pastor Bill wrote:

Full Quiver wrote:Joseph stockpiled and it not only fed Egypt but his entire family. God essentially told him to stockpile via the visions/dreams.

Yes, he did it as he was led to by God, if God leads me, I'll stockpile, till then, I'll use what I have and share with those that need. I have no promise of tomorrow, wasn't it also told of a very rich man who stockpiled in times of wealth and celebrated his need for larger barns? Wasn't he chastised for focusing on accumulated wealth and goods when his own life would not last the night?

We have to put things in context, if God leads you to stockpile, great, but it's not really a biblical principle we all need to observe either.

I have a hard time accepting this as a biblical principle. Nowhere does the Bible teach me to grocery shop yet I do. Nowhere does the Bible teach me to brush my teeth yet I do. There are just some good common sense stuff that we do that has nothing to do with Biblical Principles. Sorry but this has that TCoG scented breath when ever I hear that. Save up for a rainy day. Save up for a famine. Why would you not? Your children may thank you for it. If not... hey, we can have a big Jude2 party. Or heck, feed some homeless people... there are many waiting for God to provide for them... maybe it's you he is waiting to use.

Tangent... sorry... just seems silly to need a nod from God to have extra food for any type of emergency.

saving up for a rainy day and stockpiling can be two very different thing entirely. Stockpiling generally comes from fear.

I remember my wives granparents who suffered greatly under the depression. When you went into their attic ( big enough to stand up in ) you would have thought you entered Kroger's.

Saving for a rainy day IMHO is different. We live in Southern California...you know...earth quake country. We have a couple of large plastic containers with emergency items. Batteries, flashlight, couple gallons of water, caned goods and other non-perishable items good for about 3-4 day. When the date get ready to expire we generally eat it and restock it.

But with the other post about the homeless, I just might go through it and a few weeks before it expires give it to some homeless.

Ilovebigcats wrote:

Pastor Bill wrote:

Full Quiver wrote:Joseph stockpiled and it not only fed Egypt but his entire family. God essentially told him to stockpile via the visions/dreams.

Yes, he did it as he was led to by God, if God leads me, I'll stockpile, till then, I'll use what I have and share with those that need. I have no promise of tomorrow, wasn't it also told of a very rich man who stockpiled in times of wealth and celebrated his need for larger barns? Wasn't he chastised for focusing on accumulated wealth and goods when his own life would not last the night?

We have to put things in context, if God leads you to stockpile, great, but it's not really a biblical principle we all need to observe either.

I have a hard time accepting this as a biblical principle. Nowhere does the Bible teach me to grocery shop yet I do. Nowhere does the Bible teach me to brush my teeth yet I do. There are just some good common sense stuff that we do that has nothing to do with Biblical Principles. Sorry but this has that TCoG scented breath when ever I hear that. Save up for a rainy day. Save up for a famine. Why would you not? Your children may thank you for it. If not... hey, we can have a big Jude2 party. Or heck, feed some homeless people... there are many waiting for God to provide for them... maybe it's you he is waiting to use.

Tangent... sorry... just seems silly to need a nod from God to have extra food for any type of emergency.

I'm not saying it's a bad thing to do, just not something that I'm going to overdo, or that I feel is a God led thing. I was responding to the comment that God led Joseph to do it, which implied it was a biblical thing we should do, on that I disagree, I don't think it's any more instructed of us to do this than it is not to do it. It's a practical choice, how much food you keep in the house, or stocked up really depends on your lifestyle and is a personal choice, not a biblical mandate.

don't know how that has to do with TCoG, but it wasn't meant as such.

Pastor Bill wrote:don't know how that has to do with TCoG, but it wasn't meant as such.

Well.. if you stockpiled you were full of fear and headed to hell.


I would like a good supply because we have so many kids and you never know but not out of fear... out of my smartness.

Ilovebigcats wrote:

Pastor Bill wrote:don't know how that has to do with TCoG, but it wasn't meant as such.

Well.. if you stockpiled you were full of fear and headed to hell.


I would like a good supply because we have so many kids and you never know but not out of fear... out of my smartness.

not exactly true i know many in tcog that stock piled on 2000 new years MANY, i laughed and said God will provide. it was preached in pulpits as well that everything would crash, not just tcog but i know a few that got caught up in that.

I didn't mean to imply that stock piling was a Biblical theme but was going against the argument of God is my provider. He provided for the children of Israel because Joseph stockpiled. Joseph was WISE!

Anyhow, it's just a discussion and not an immediate situation.

I believe none of us know what is ahead unless God allows us to understand for our own protection...I do believe it is possible to have shortages of food, due to less farming in our country and more dependency on imports...I also believe that this food, money, starvation and all the other basic human needs will be a tool for people to take the mark of the beast for buying and selling...It's will appeal to our basic survival needs...Just my 2 cents...

Full Quiver wrote:I didn't mean to imply that stock piling was a Biblical theme but was going against the argument of God is my provider. He provided for the children of Israel because Joseph stockpiled. Joseph was WISE!

Anyhow, it's just a discussion and not an immediate situation.

FQ, your statement is not entirely correct. All the Israelites took with them on the widerness journey was Gold, Silver, linnen, precious stones and pots and pans....not really editable items, it wasn't any of the grain that Joseph had stockpiled.

Did not God provide for the Isrealites for fourty years as the wandered in the wilderness ? No stockpiling there.....daily provisions

Does not the word says that it is God, who will provide for our needs according to His riches in heaven ?

The scriptures are to numerous to list in a single post.