Jude 2

Why is it often assumed that a christian cannot vote for a democrat?

When has the dirty laundry of your boss's marriage kept you from working and making a living here? I may not agree with my boss's morals, but if he is the best man for the job why cause a fuss over personal problems?

Just because a person thinks a democrat can help our country better than a republican does not mean they support abortion and gay marriage......plus are these not already legal in this country? Im not so sure that all the republicans in the world could ever ban gay people and murders from this country. Heck we would have to ban Bush from the US then.

Is it a full moon?

scooter wrote:

Is it a full moon?

See "Somebody Left The Door Open" post.

Jamais vous wrote:

Why is it often assumed that a christian cannot vote for a democrat?

Because democrats are against Christian things? I don't know...just a guess.

When has the dirty laundry of your boss's marriage kept you from working and making a living here? I may not agree with my boss's morals, but if he is the best man for the job why cause a fuss over personal problems?

If a man can't take care of his marriage, do you really want to hire him to take care of your company?

You're right, of course. What's morals got to do with anything? Hey, if a teacher smokes dope, sleeps around, hangs out in Las Vegas all summer, and drinks like a fish....it's okay as long as he gets the concept of long division into your kid's head?

Just because a person thinks a democrat can help our country better than a republican does not mean they support abortion and gay marriage......plus are these not already legal in this country? Im not so sure that all the republicans in the world could ever ban gay people and murders from this country. Heck we would have to ban Bush from the US then.

If you vote for a man, you vote for what he believes in.

Since they are legal, let's just go ahead and sit down and accept it?

No one wants to ban gay people. However, banning uneducated people who vote may be a good thing.

Shellie wrote: ...banning uneducated people who vote may be a good thing.

I agree with that - somewhat tongue in cheek - but it would be nice. A 22 year old called in to a radio show on my way to work this morning. They asked her who she would vote for...she said she wouldn't vote since she didn't know that much about the election. She thought McCain was a Dem (which is another topic altogether, natch). She didn't realize she still had months to 'learn' about the candidates. It went on and on from there. Totally ridiculous, yet she is not that small of a minority in this country.

Jamais Vu wrote:Why is it often assumed that a christian cannot vote for a democrat?

Just because a person thinks a democrat can help our country better than a republican does not mean they support abortion and gay marriage......plus are these not already legal in this country? Im not so sure that all the republicans in the world could ever ban gay people and murders from this country. Heck we would have to ban Bush from the US then.

I want the best man to shepherd my church. I want him to believe in the same things I do, want him to be faithful, moral, strong character, good family man, etc. The president is esentially the shepherd of our country. Why would I not expect/want the same things out of that person?

I vote for the person who most closely matches my beliefs, my expectations and my goals. Obama is a socialist. Hillary is a socialist. Hillary claims to be a Christian. Obama's beliefs are all over the map.

I feel like even if a Democrat MIGHT do a better job than a Republican, I could not get past the fact that in MOST cases, a Democrat is going to be pushing the abortion agenda. And even if he didn't, the other Democrats he put in power would. Abortion may already be legal, but look at all the work that has been done to try to ban partial birth abortion. Something is better than nothing. I want a president who is going to support the same things morally that I support, and denounce and work against the things that I stand against. If you vote for a Democrat, you are putting their agenda into power, morally and otherwise.

Now, this is not to say that I would vote Republican across the board (although that has been the case so far in my short voting life). If an independent party comes along that would do a better job than the Republican and has good morals, then I'm gonna vote for them. (For Example: Arnold Schwarzenegger is a Republican but he is as liberal as the day is long). But I will NEVER vote for a Democrat.

Cause Democrats fight tooth and nail to kill a baby EVEN as it is half out of a woman AND call that A RIGHT THING TO DO??????????????????

Bloody idiots

Is this centrist?

MacUser wrote:Is this centrist?

ROTFLOL (wouldn't you like to see that)

Shellie wrote:Because democrats are against Christian things? I don't know...just a guess.

so there is no such thing as a christian democrat? and if anyone who votes for a democrat is most certainly NOT a christian in any way, and they are going to hell?

If a man can't take care of his marriage, do you really want to hire him to take care of your company?

no i agree with you. but i dont have my own company. i work for a lot of men, most of whom i know NOTHING about their personal life, yet the company is still very successful. should i know EVERYTHING about them to work for them?

You're right, of course. What's morals got to do with anything? Hey, if a teacher smokes dope, sleeps around, hangs out in Las Vegas all summer, and drinks like a fish....it's okay as long as he gets the concept of long division into your kid's head?

I am right about what?....i mostly asked some questions. What do morals have to do with our country?.....this country has ZERO morals.....we our ran by a corrupt government, and yet we still WORK for this very corrupt and immoral system. Im pretty sure most all of my teachers in both HS ad college can all fit into your list there.

If you vote for a man, you vote for what he believes in.

Since they are legal, let's just go ahead and sit down and accept it?

No one wants to ban gay people. However, banning uneducated people who vote may be a good thing.

Agreed. But who knows what any of them (politicians) believe in.

It would probably be way too risky to ban uneducated people, the government would ban all of us who would actually believe in doing right.

fezzik wrote:

Jamais Vu wrote:Why is it often assumed that a christian cannot vote for a democrat?

Just because a person thinks a democrat can help our country better than a republican does not mean they support abortion and gay marriage......plus are these not already legal in this country? Im not so sure that all the republicans in the world could ever ban gay people and murders from this country. Heck we would have to ban Bush from the US then.

I want the best man to shepherd my church. I want him to believe in the same things I do, want him to be faithful, moral, strong character, good family man, etc. The president is esentially the shepherd of our country. Why would I not expect/want the same things out of that person?

I vote for the person who most closely matches my beliefs, my expectations and my goals. Obama is a socialist. Hillary is a socialist. Hillary claims to be a Christian. Obama's beliefs are all over the map.

I agree about a church....although i dont think the US is a church...more like a corporation. And the president alone doesnt run the coutnry like a shepherd leads a church. I wouldnt vote for either obamination or hillrod as well.

Jamais Vu posted:

Just because a person thinks a democrat can help our country better than a republican does not mean they support abortion and gay marriage..

Just most of the time. And even if they don't believe in it, they vote right down th line.

Jamais Vu wrote:Just because a person thinks a democrat can help our country better than a republican does not mean they support abortion and gay marriage.

Learn a NEw word: Facilitate.


You say: I want my country to be helped (however you define that help),
so you vote for a Party that fights tooth and nail FOR abortion.

You facilitate: "assist the progress of" Abortion and the abortion party for your own physical comfort.

You are no different than the average German who was happy that under Hitler bread was affordable and no longer took a wheelbarrow full of cash.

I am right about what?....i mostly asked some questions. What do morals have to do with our country?.....this country has ZERO morals.....we our ran by a corrupt government, and yet we still WORK for this very corrupt and immoral system. Im pretty sure most all of my teachers in both HS ad college can all fit into your list there.

I'm not too sure about zero morals, but Christians when deciding who to vote for are often awfully selective about what they believe to be moral issues. Some Christians feel very strong about issues of poverty and they feel attracted to the Democrats. However, they are skewered by some Christians for voting for a pro-abortion candidate. The Christian who favors the Democrat then turns on their accuser by pointing out questionable positions of the Republican party. Each can then feel secure for making a moral stand, but they are really only dividing themselves between two thieves. An interesting book I've been reading on this is The Scandal of Evangelical Politics by by Ronald J. Sider. It calls for Christians to really seek out a biblical Christ based foundation for our political stances beyond the ready, fire, aim strategy we all too often fall into. The Great Awakening by Jim Wallis is also interesting.