Jude 2

How long has it been since your pastor talked frankly about sex in a message? I did, today, in a message on "Men's needs" -- part of a relationship series.

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/393234

Pleasures, Treasures, & Addictions
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Pastor Jim Kelly

I did that a few times in my 15 years of pastoral, but it just never seemed to fly with the older crowd.

Our children stay with us in worship service, so I don't want the pastor to be too frank.

Pastor Gary wrote:How long has it been since your pastor talked frankly about sex in a message? I did, today, in a message on "Men's needs" -- part of a relationship series.

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/393234

Over the years I have, especially with one of the members. Of course we will have been married 39 years come August.

Seriously. I think this subjrct is one which needs to be address by the ministry. I think it is avoided. It is avoided by parenys to children also. It seems if Godly figures of authority avoid it, others will fill the informational, and moral gap. Since this is one of the drives we have, it is a need which will find fulfilment. Psychologically and physiologically once the deed is done, there is a chemical which acts upon the brain giving the neurological pathway to this experience. What I am saying is if this experience is traveled to in the wrong manner, there is a strong possibility it will be traveled to in that manner again. So I give you honor Pastor for your integrety to your calling and responsibilty as a leader. Also your bravery.

Now to answer you question. Almost never. I remember about 34 years ago when Larry Biggers was youth secretary (excuse me V.L..B. State Secretary) of Kentucky. He had a table with some christian magazines on it at the Stae Convention. He had the audacity first of all to put some there that were not published by the White Wing Publishing house and approved by the Doctrine Committee. One of these magazines actually dealt with masturbation among young people. I do not know if he ever knew how much he was the conversation on the Camp Ground. I still admire Larry Biggers. (Hey Bishop in case you are lurching.)

Ray

Pastor Gary wrote:How long has it been since your pastor talked frankly about sex in a message? I did, today, in a message on "Men's needs" -- part of a relationship series.

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/393234

Its like any other topic/subject, if your church needs to hear that kind of teaching and its Holy Spirit approved, then by all means obey! Im sure the HS will give you the righ spirit to preach/teach and the right words to speak!

I think it is needed. I haven't taught on it much(specifically)....however, I agree that it should be covered throughout the year.

I have small children also and I would much rather them hear about it in a biblical based message than at school or on the T.V.

I try to prtect my kids as much as the next person....but you can't even walk in the mall without seeing intimate stuff...or how about all the "period" comercials that are out now.

Kids are going to be exposed to this topic in the society that we live in, so it' okay with me if they hear something at church and have questions...this gives me the opportunity to explain what is right and wrong.

I even believe that we should be kissy kissy, huggy huggy, grabby grabby with our kids able to catch a glimpse. They need to know that mommies and daddies are the ones that should be kissing and hugging and that is natural and okay in the right setting.

About 3 or 4 weeks ago.

In fact, it was announced the previous week, and again at the start of each service, that the message would be very frank and that parents might want their children to be in Kidz Church or the nursery.

i don't recall that he has.

Gee, I think the last time I heard that type of message was about 45 years ago. Yep, Bro. T.W. Goins preached that kissing was a sin! It took me a few days to get over that one until I received my first kiss and it sure didn't feel like a sin to me!!!

You mean Christians actually have sex and PASTORS too????

Pastor Gary wrote:How long has it been since your pastor talked frankly about sex in a message? I did, today, in a message on "Men's needs" -- part of a relationship series.

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/393234

Most preachers are more about the moral and/or relational implications of sex in the pulpit than technique, per se...

ichthus wrote:

You mean Christians actually have sex and PASTORS too????

Some even have sex with their pastors!

Shellie wrote:ichthus wrote:

You mean Christians actually have sex and PASTORS too????

Some even have sex with their pastors!

I knew that was coming.

I'm at a crossroads with this one...

I don't mind sex bring brought up in the pulpit...it should...reminding the couples it is a blessed thing...reminding the young people/singles that it's biblical that sex is meant for marriage ONLY...

BUT...there are a few things that I don't like about it...

1) being a single...keeping myself till marriage...I don't want to be reminded of what I ain't gettin...
2) I'm a visual/mental (yes I said mental) person...I REALLY don't want the visual I get of the pastor talking about sex...*shivers* NOT pretty...
3) no one will want to go out to eat after church...it'd be like a lightbulb came on..."HONEY!!! THE PASTOR SAID WE CAN HAVE SEX!" and then the next thing you know, the youth/singles are watching the little kids for the afternoon...which tthen takes me back to reason #1...

As I told the girls in a class I taught once...my wedding night is gonna be one HECK of a night...