Jude 2

I know that there is a lot of hesitation with Vista. Rightfully so.
But I have been in contact with my sales rep that handles my Non profit
licensing .

Churchs/non-profits can purchase MS products at greatly reduced prices.
IE. at a computer store MS Office pro will cost $395 or more. but Churches/non-profits can purachse for $76.

What my sales rep explained to me is that if you need XP PRO license you can purchase a MS Visa Business license that is downward activated to MS XP PRO. and when Vista becomes stable (Ie SP3/4) in a year or so. you can then upgrade your computer to Vista using the same license.

Just a little tidbit I thought I would share.

been running Vista enterprise for a long time now and have had little or no issues. Running ultimate on a home computer and no problems there at all.

I have had no problems with Vista on my laptop. I actually like Vista better than XP.

Ladies and Gentleman, the first two people other than Bill Gates, that actually like VISTA.....Give them a hand everyone.

MrDanger wrote:Ladies and Gentleman, the first two people other than Bill Gates, that actually like VISTA.....Give them a hand everyone.

interesting.

all the people I know in real life that use Vista, prefer it to XP or previous. even people that have some software that isn't Vista compatible, like it better than XP other than their not being able to use that particular software.

I think the "nobody likes vista" blarg is a bunch of hoooowy. It's different, and most of the complaints I have read about are because of "the change", not because of any valid (non-aesthetic) reason.

I had Vista on my PC for all of 7 hours. It took forever to load, my soundcard driver for XP didn't work in Vista, and Avid Xpress, my video editing platform, is totally incompatible with it.

Surprised MacUser has not chimed in yet. Usually he jumps on stuff like this, like flies on poopy.

EagerBeaver wrote:I had Vista on my PC for all of 7 hours. It took forever to load, my soundcard driver for XP didn't work in Vista, and Avid Xpress, my video editing platform, is totally incompatible with it.

Surprised MacUser has not chimed in yet. Usually he jumps on stuff like this, like flies on poopy.

you have a specific hardware and piece of software that isn't compatible.

you require the use of a previous OS, how is that a valid decision of preference of an OS (like/dislike). your requirements were specific to something not allowed.

there are many sound cards that work with vista as there are many video editing softwares - you chose what you use, and they don't use Vista. what if you used newer hardware (that supported Vista) and software?

You didn't say that you did or did not like Vista, only that you required something else because of your personal choices.

RamboPreacher wrote:I think the "nobody likes vista" blarg is a bunch of hoooowy. It's different, and most of the complaints I have read about are because of "the change", not because of any valid (non-aesthetic) reason.

You need to get out more.

Several school systems across the U.S. and in Great Britain have made all their schools go back to XP because of the problems with VISTA.

One of my former students that I worked with in the business club FBLA now works for Micro$oft. We use his personal laptop for our state conference. He runs XP and has even gone as far as telling us to wait till he gives us a heads up that VISTA is worthwhile owning. But what does he know, he only works there creating software.

MrDanger wrote:Ladies and Gentleman, the first two people other than Bill Gates, that actually like VISTA.....Give them a hand everyone.

Hahahaha, I am just saying my experience with Vista has been good. Granted I do very little with my laptop other than the internet and a computer game. So in truth, my experience with Vista is very limited based on the fact I do not run many programs on it.

Doesn't anybody else think Vista runs slowwwwwww!

I installed all the memory I could in a new desktop I
purchased with Vista already installed & my older
XP laptop with 1/2 the memory smokes it bad!

I was also unhappy that several older programs I
ran on XP wouldn't run on Vista. I use dial up internet
at home - and it is slower on the Vista machine as
well (I'm guessing because of the security features?).

My big beef was that it did not have a printer driver
for my inkjet printer. Vista didn't - and the printer
manufacturer didn't either. (I caught print cartridges
on sale 1/2 price awhile back & I am not getting
rid of that printer until they are all gone!).

MrDanger wrote:...
Several school systems across the U.S. and in Great Britain have made all their schools go back to XP because of the problems with VISTA. ..

don't suppose you know why, what "problems"?

Doesn't anybody remember when XP came out and people had the same issues? XP runs slow, XP isn't as compatible with my hardware/software as Windows 95/98. Computer makers and the industry caught up with the OS and after SP2 everyone loved it. I just currently reinstalled VISTA on my laptop after the release of SP1 and I'm loving it. They've fixed a number of the issues I had with it and sure it runs a tad slower, but that just gives me an excuse to upgrade my RAM.

what I have used, I have liked. But I dont plan on upgrading my home PC anytime soon. When I get a new PC, I'll probably load Vista on it.

RamboPreacher wrote:

MrDanger wrote:...
Several school systems across the U.S. and in Great Britain have made all their schools go back to XP because of the problems with VISTA. ..

don't suppose you know why, what "problems"?

For one, being prompted at every single thing you try to do on your computer.

Are you sure you want to access this website?
Do you want to set up individual user controls for this program?
Would you like to set up the firewall for this program?
Windows Defender needs more configuration options, configure now?
Do you have to go to the bathroom?

Windows Vista is ridiculous. Too big a memory footprint to run Windows Explorer, which, oh wait, is the shell of the operating system.

To CantBCoy -- Microhard's taking forever to release service packs for Windows XP is the same reason many businesses are still operating on Windows 2000, an operating system that is 9 years old. Once XP was deemed secure enough for IT people to deploy, Vista had already come along. With support for XP rapidly being phased out by Microshaft and Vista not being a very business-friendly operating system, it is good business sense to run something that isn't broke and doesn't require fixing.

As far as a home user standpoint, if I wanted my computer to look like the Fisher-Price operating system I would have bought one of those $29.99 kiddie laptops at Radio Shack.

I liked XP but Vista was terrible. Across the board, its benchmarks for memory usage, writing data to disk, and especially transferring data across a network are awful. I won't use an operating system that was touted as an upgrade yet serves as more of a downgrade.

On top of everything, I had numerous STOP errors (those nifty blue screens of death that shows you a memory dump of what just happened) and I had not encountered ONE with XP. Driver incompatibility with SOUND BLASTER, one of the most universally recognized brands.

Want to relive the 486 experience? Try Vista!

Ubuntu Linux is a good option.

I have heard thru the grapevines of the downward thoughts against Vista. I have seen it on 1 computer. did not like it.

But it has been a joke among MS IT people for years. dont touch a new OS till SP 2 or 3 is out.

The very fact as in my original post. the MS Vista License is a working MS XP PRO license.
To me that is MS admitting . Houston we have a problem.