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Dr. Ron may be right

Posted: May 6th, 2008, 10:00 am
by turbotim
Here it is!

Many have speculated why Gore, one of the party's most popular figures, has decided to stay on the fence, but the former vice president said Tuesday the reason is really quite simple — and he still may yet come out for a candidate.


I don't guess this is a surprise.

Posted: May 6th, 2008, 12:09 pm
by crispfin
If I understand what Dr. Ron has said, he believes Gore will wind up being the dem nominee, right? If I was a McCain supporter that'd probably be the last thing I'd want to see.

Posted: May 6th, 2008, 12:57 pm
by Pastor Gary
crispfinagin wrote:If I understand what Dr. Ron has said, he believes Gore will wind up being the dem nominee, right? If I was a McCain supporter that'd probably be the last thing I'd want to see.


A second Gore candidacy would energize the Republican right in ways you can only imagine.

Posted: May 6th, 2008, 2:13 pm
by Full Quiver
PG, how so since neither Clinton or Obama seem to be getting the GOP fired up.

Posted: May 6th, 2008, 4:44 pm
by Rob
Full Quiver wrote:PG, how so since neither Clinton or Obama seem to be getting the GOP fired up.


Great question I was going to ask the same thing. Because in my opinion McCain is nothing but a Dem, dressed up like a Republican.

Posted: May 6th, 2008, 6:23 pm
by one love
Pastor Rob wrote:
Full Quiver wrote:PG, how so since neither Clinton or Obama seem to be getting the GOP fired up.


Great question I was going to ask the same thing. Because in my opinion McCain is nothing but a Dem, dressed up like a Republican.



name the main democratic issues in the democratic party he agrees with.
I have said this before but im curious to your answers about some things

gun issues
taxes
gay marriage
partial birth
hate speech act
education
border issues
iraq

what issues does he line up with them?

Posted: May 7th, 2008, 3:05 am
by MacUser
one love wrote:name the main democratic issues in the democratic party he agrees with.
I have said this before but im curious to your answers about some things

gun issues
taxes
gay marriage
partial birth
hate speech act
education
border issues
iraq

what issues does he line up with them?


Well mostly on environment and immigration..

Global Warming! If the Global Warming hoax is immediately swallowed.. then HALF of all the Democrats points are already won. Sheesh.


Closing Gitmo! John McCain said in Iowa, "One of the things I would do, the first day I am President of the United States, is close Guantanamo Bay! See Youtube! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5Co7x3A12s


Pro Immigration: he sponsored a bill with Ted Kennedy to allow millions of illegal immigrants become citizens!!

On Christians: Something else I remember clearly.. A few years ago, McCain called Jerry Falwell an "agent of intolerance" and compared him to Louis Farrakhan! I remember clearly him attacking other Christians...

On Abortion: In August 1999, McCain said, "I'd love to see a point where Roe v. Wade is irrelevant, and could be repealed because abortion is no longer necessary. But certainly in the short term, or even the long term, I would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade, which would then force women in America to [undergo] illegal and dangerous operations." This wasn't a fluke comment—McCain said the same thing more than once. The same thing happened again following McCain's suggestion that the nutty Republican platform plank on the topic be rewritten, and again after he made the comment that if his daughter—who was 15 at the time—became pregnant, it would be up to her to decide whether to have an abortion.

On Gay Marriage: The Advocate calls him "notoriously pro-gay." In 2004, McCain was one of only six Republican senators to vote against the Federal Marriage Amendment, and after a Massachusetts court affirmed gay unions, he took the position that states could decide their own marriage laws without federal help. McCain has lately fallen back into formation, saluting an obnoxious Arizona bill that would deny benefits to unmarried couples.

On Tax Cuts: McCain rejected the president's fiscal recklessness and tax cuts skewed to the wealthy. He allied himself with Democratic colleagues on a variety of social issues, including HMO reform, environmentalism, and gun control. Democrats implored him to switch teams, as a couple of his advisers, frozen out by the right, actually did.


Opposes Using Harsh methods to gain life saving information from enemy.
If my country is at a stake.. and this guy needs to be waterboarded to release information. So be it.

Will the real John McCain stand up?

Those are just a few..

Posted: May 7th, 2008, 4:39 am
by crispfin
A second Gore candidacy would energize the Republican right in ways you can only imagine.

The popularity of Gore would blow McCain out of the water, energized or not. An awful lot of people watched an Inconvenient Truth and agree with him whether some on here like it or not. His status in some people's eyes as the man who had the presidency stolen from him won't hurt the vote turnout either. That's just how I could see things happening.

Posted: May 7th, 2008, 4:41 am
by crispfin
Opposes Using Harsh methods to gain life saving information from enemy.

Is this double speak for torture? If so, do you find no contradiction between worshipping a God who was tortured and your support of it?

Posted: May 7th, 2008, 5:35 am
by MacUser
crispfinagin wrote:
Opposes Using Harsh methods to gain life saving information from enemy.

Is this double speak for torture? If so, do you find no contradiction between worshipping a God who was tortured and your support of it?


First: Are you drawing a comparison between a coward of a person whom kills women, children and untold innocents in the name of Allah so he can molest some unknown amount of virgins in his heaven

-vs-

My Jesus that died on the cross for the sins of the world? God made flesh that gave his life freely so that the world could be saved?

Seriously?


Second: If a known captured coward is about to detonate a nuclear device over NYC.. I would support anything to extract the necessary information short of death.

Posted: May 7th, 2008, 11:32 am
by Full Quiver
and McCain seems to be looking to McCain-Kennedy (immigration bill) again. Maybe he didn't learn his lesson.

Dr. Ron may be right.

Posted: May 7th, 2008, 12:43 pm
by Dr. Ron
Yep........again!!!! As usual......

Re: Dr. Ron may be right.

Posted: May 7th, 2008, 2:22 pm
by Paully_44
Dr. Ron wrote:Yep........again!!!! As usual......


If I give you a portion of my winnings, can you pull a Karnak and tell me the winning lotto numbers? :)

Posted: May 7th, 2008, 2:28 pm
by Jennifer Smith
Well, Dr. Ron may be right about some things, but I can predict the American Idol outcast of the week...! (I'm almost always right.. :) )

Tonight, sadly, it will be Jason Castro.. :( :lol:

Posted: May 7th, 2008, 8:25 pm
by rjjunior
Thanks, Macuser. You have RE-discouraged me concerning this year's general election. I had tried to block out all you have said in hopes it would go away.