RamboPreacher wrote:i guess that IF i were in their shoes, I would just report everything as legally available to show that I have nothing to hide. Of course I am not them.

Rambo if you were them i would be asking you for a loan or a free will offering
I know someone who is very much into these pastors, preaches like them and may one day be one of them. It is sad that someone could pollute the gospel so much and I could pull the discussions from UTR about this and it would blow your mind. They preach this stronger then anything "sow a seed"
I have a question where would they be in the great depression? What if we really have a recession?
And why is every year a year of ....new beginnings...or the year of preparation.... every year is a build up of how you will be rich this year in 2008 , well what happened to 2007 promise? Oh it was a build up , a tearing down if you will to except the promises of wealth that is there for you It sickens me!!! They talk about missions and sending money to feed the poor but they are spending millions on there private luxuries out of the churches funds, why ask others to give all and you have a 2 cars that cost more then most peoples houses?
I don’t care if a minister works and owns a business and becomes wealthy but to become a multi millionaire and live better then Hollywood off of church money is wrong. Filthy lucre....serving mammon... I pray for an awakening. Our overseer witnessed to a man when he preached revival here a few weeks ago the man was receptive and he felt he was about to give his life to the Lord right in the restaurant but there was something there and he did not know what it was, well the man told him are you one of those that want me to give you an offering now? He was so saddened to hear that he explained to the man that the only thing he wanted was for him to be saved and he said the was going to think about it, he gave the man his address and number and said call anytime and when you get saved write me a letter and please do not send me any money.
This truly is destroying peoples confidence in the ministry...