Jude 2

T o a chorus of "Amens" and "Thank You, Jesus," the Rev. Daniel S. Mundell tells followers God will free them of debt, even make them millionaires.

Then comes the sales pitch: Back up your faith with donations. Give, even if it's your last $100. Write a check. Pay by credit card.

.....he was living in a $1.8 million estate in Safety Harbor, near Tampa, with basketball and tennis courts and a putting green.

The ministry paid the preacher $206,000 in 2005 and once provided him a Mercedes-Benz, a Jaguar and a Corvette, according to court records.

Even convicted crook W V Grant shows up in the story with his old "My leg grew three inches" carnival trick I saw him do in Cinncinati.

SAME OLD STORY HERE

Same old....same old story.

I've been complaining, arguing, exposing and calling these cretins what they are for years. So much so that people have no qualms joking about my sanity.

But as this story plays out over and over and over...YOU CANNOT TELL me that Pentecostalism is not harmed, nor Christianity to those deluded by these continuing practices.

I would to God that we had men with backbone to stand up against these maggots and expose their "Jesus as Mammons fetchit boy" doctrine, instead of solipsistic "giants" who kvetch about "derailing miracles" if the lies are exposed.

Gerald,

How is it that Peter Popoff still has an active ministry with television and all after he was exposed several years back?

pa

All of this false teaching and preaching is history repeating itself.

Jeremiah the prophet wrote:“A wonderful and horrible thing is committed in the land; The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their own means; and my people love to have it so:"

True Christianity is accepted by few, and rejected by many.

pastorables wrote:Gerald,

How is it that Peter Popoff still has an active ministry with television and all after he was exposed several years back?

pa

I don't know. I've never taken a lookat Popoff. What is your theory?

Gerald Creasy wrote:

pastorables wrote:Gerald,

How is it that Peter Popoff still has an active ministry with television and all after he was exposed several years back?

pa

I don't know. I've never taken a lookat Popoff. What is your theory?

Gerald,

I really don't know. He was exposed for using wireless transmitters from his wife to himself during services. They were using pre-solicited visitor cards to have knowledge of an individuals physical condition, etc... He was exposed by the same network who when after Tilton and Larry Lea. I am just surprised that Popoff is still so active.

pa

pastorables wrote:

Gerald Creasy wrote:

pastorables wrote:Gerald,

How is it that Peter Popoff still has an active ministry with television and all after he was exposed several years back?

pa

I don't know. I've never taken a lookat Popoff. What is your theory?

Gerald,

I really don't know. He was exposed for using wireless transmitters from his wife to himself during services. They were using pre-solicited visitor cards to have knowledge of an individuals physical condition, etc... He was exposed by the same network who when after Tilton and Larry Lea. I am just surprised that Popoff is still so active.

pa

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qxqRN5vjDHQ&feature=related

I don't know. I've never taken a lookat Popoff. What is your theory?

Maybe it's like the guys who hold signs saying "Need money for beer and cigs". People appreciate shameless frauds.

Why do preachers accept credit card payments at all? With today's society so steeped in credit card debt and high interest rates shouldn't preachers be teaching people to avoid such uses instead of encouraging them to "give" with them?

Full Quiver wrote:Why do preachers accept credit card payments at all? With today's society so steeped in credit card debt and high interest rates shouldn't preachers be teaching people to avoid such uses instead of encouraging them to "give" with them?

There are some people who pay everything with a credit card so they can get the rewards. Then at the end of the month, they pay off the credit card.

Full Quiver wrote:Why do preachers accept credit card payments at all? With today's society so steeped in credit card debt and high interest rates shouldn't preachers be teaching people to avoid such uses instead of encouraging them to "give" with them?

FQ you are going to ruffle feathers there But I fully understand and agree. Reason being is many ministers are hindered from doing all they can becuase of debt. It should be taught early on in church now days, since this is our life duty to serve God, to be very responsible with credit. Explain you could be called to other states or countries but if you are bound with debt, that is hindered.
I see that they want to bring in as much as possible and in this day and age I dont even carry cash, but i can still write a check to church.

one love wrote:... but i can still write a check to church.

a check? like on paper, and not a debit card? people still have those paper check things that you write on? (hehheehe - just kidding)

a check? like on paper, and not a debit card? people still have those paper check things that you write on? (hehheehe - just kidding)

It's true! I witnessed someone writing one firsthand the other day! I thought I was caught in a time loop. Spread the word!!!

We pay most our bills with checks.

We pay most our bills with checks.

Then you appear to be caught in the time loop as well.

Hey, they get the job done.