Jude 2

Paul, I read this, the teachings of Dr Gill
about supernatural living, in your raised from the dead post. Who is this and can you give us a brief synopsis?

It may be the Dr. Gill that preceeded Charles Spurgeon?

More than likely A L Gil Author of Gods Promises for Your Every Need

And speaks on such topics as: Speaking the Words of Healing

http://www.gillministries.com/

From his Website:

A.L’s messages on the Authority of the Believer are releasing believers into a fresh new spirit of boldness, which equips them for effective spiritual warfare and victorious living. Many are healed by the revelation of God’s Word as they listen to his powerful teaching on healing. His messages are equipping believers for miracle evangelism as they experience healing miracles happening through their own hands. His teachings on the Love of the Father, Praise and Worship, and Supernatural Living through the Gifts of the Holy Spirit, are releasing believers into a fresh and intimate relationship with God and into living in God’s supernatural power.

Oooooh! He tells me in 12 steps i can get a miracle!!

Full Quiver wrote:Paul, I read this, the teachings of Dr Gill
about supernatural living, in your raised from the dead post. Who is this and can you give us a brief synopsis?

gerald is correct... Dr. A.L. Gill is a very close personal friend of Nancy and I. http://www.gillmiistries.com Supernatural Living series is one course in the curriculum that we use in our Bible College Program. I can attest that his life is one of integrity and tremendous testimonies have followed his teachings. He and I have ministered together on several occasions and I have spoken at his conferences. You can check out http://www.isom.org for an overview of the course material we use as our base courses. Two new trimesters have been added. One is called a Ministerial Core and Women of the World.

Dr. Berin Gifflin founder of isom is a post graduate of fuller. His major was Missionology. The ISOM is the world's largest video Bible school with over 12,000 training sites in 141 countries and over 60 languages.

Dr. Gill's website mentions Mountain Top Encounter 2008. I wonder if this happened at FOTW.

EagerBeaver wrote:Dr. Gill's website mentions Mountain Top Encounter 2008. I wonder if this happened at FOTW.

Big Bear Lake as a matter of fact. High up in the mountains overlooking the beautiful Inland Empire. About one hour from my home in Riverside.

Gerald Creasy wrote:
Oooooh! He tells me in 12 steps i can get a miracle!!

Gerald here is a two step program that is guarenteed to work every time

Step 1:Confess

Step2: Believe

Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

paul wrote:

Gerald Creasy wrote:
Oooooh! He tells me in 12 steps i can get a miracle!!

Gerald here is a two step program that is guarenteed to work every time

Step 1:Confess

Step2: Believe

Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

You really believe that YOU have the power by those two steps to get anything you want out of God???

Gerald Creasy wrote:

paul wrote:

Gerald Creasy wrote:
Oooooh! He tells me in 12 steps i can get a miracle!!

Gerald here is a two step program that is guarenteed to work every time

Step 1:Confess

Step2: Believe

Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

You really believe that YOU have the power by those two steps to get anything you want out of God???

In the context of the verse I was referring to salvation. Salvation comes by confessing and believing. It is a process. That was all I was saying Gerald.

Oh--I had the wrong Dr. Gill

Paul, no offense but let's not leave out the most important thing in the salvation experience or two step program. That being the drawing of the Holy Ghost; no man comes to the father except He bee drawn by the Lord.

People are confessing and "believing" all the time but no change is taking place because they are not getting saved.

Full Quiver wrote:Paul, no offense but let's not leave out the most important thing in the salvation experience or two step program. That being the drawing of the Holy Ghost; no man comes to the father except He bee drawn by the Lord.

People are confessing and "believing" all the time but no change is taking place because they are not getting saved.

That and there is the "Billy Graham crusade syndrome," as I call it. People get saved but there is no help for them afterward, it's just get saved and send them on their way. Can't say that is the case in Paul's circle but still that happens a lot.

Now I have never been to a Graham crusade but am told that there are countless reps. present from across the denominational spectrum that are more than eager to counsel and further discipline those that are converted or interested in becoming Christians. Of course I am sure that everyone that makes the walk down the "aisle" does not really repent either.

Full Quiver wrote:Of course I am sure that everyone that makes the walk down the "aisle" does not really repent either.

That's true - I saw a woman handing out real estate business cards to people in the altar at a Billy Graham crusade.

Full Quiver wrote:Paul, no offense but let's not leave out the most important thing in the salvation experience or two step program. That being the drawing of the Holy Ghost; no man comes to the father except He bee drawn by the Lord.

People are confessing and "believing" all the time but no change is taking place because they are not getting saved.

FQ, that is God's part....our part is still the process of confessing and believing.

Same as the Holy Spirit; God's part is that he made it available as a gift to us....our part is that we must ask him for it and receive it.

Luk 11:11 And of which of you that is a father shall his son ask a loaf, and he give him a stone? or a fish, and he for a fish give him a serpent?
Luk 11:12 Or if he shall ask an egg, will he give him a scorpion?
Luk 11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?


Paul set the principle clearly concerning the Harvest.

Our Part: To plant (sow) water....God's part, He will give the increase

1Co 3:4 For when one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not men?
1Co 3:5 What then is Apollos? and what is Paul? Ministers through whom ye believed; and each as the Lord gave to him.
1Co 3:6 I planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
1Co 3:7 So then neither is he that planteth anything, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.

As far as the Billy Graham Crusades...if only 1/1000th were real its more than all of us on this board have accomplished combined.(soul winning)