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My recent visit to FotW...

Postby RamboPreacher » June 16th, 2008, 3:38 am

http://www.citylifeworshipcenter.org/im ... /index.htm
pictures as promised some time ago - sorry for the delay - we came back from CPPA ministering to the flooding, and have been very busy.
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Postby dolfan » June 16th, 2008, 3:42 am

Praying for Iowa, Rambo. I think many Americans are missing the scope of the damage and devastation. From what I've seen, though, Iowans themselves are handling this as well as anyone should expect, and doing quite well in the face of really big time adverse conditions. Proud of y'all, and praying, too.
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Postby RamboPreacher » June 16th, 2008, 3:45 am

dolfan wrote:Praying for Iowa, Rambo. I think many Americans are missing the scope of the damage and devastation. From what I've seen, though, Iowans themselves are handling this as well as anyone should expect, and doing quite well in the face of really big time adverse conditions. Proud of y'all, and praying, too.
mayby instead of dealing with the issues adn going forward, we should just blame the gubbamint and the president for not handing out a free rebuild :) hehehehe
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Postby paul » June 16th, 2008, 4:03 am

Rambo, thanks for the tour......Been many many years. I was saddened that so many of the markers seemd to be in much need of repair. While I watched it, it just seemed like and Era so long ago that passed. That is not meant to be demeaning in any way...... I still have fond memories with my wife and children at some of the services there.

BTW: do I send you my $5 for a c.p.m.a. card ? :lol:

Continue to pray for the situation in Iowa.......
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Postby PastorDaniel » June 16th, 2008, 4:38 am

Thanks Rambo...those are Great pictures...

I was there just about a month before you and was dissapointed at the deterioration that I saw.

I believe that the concrete markers should be done away.

Then replace some of the more prominent markers with marble or something more durable like they use in the Chickamauga Battlefield.

Then let the rest of the park be about nature and God's handiwork.

The top of the hill behind prayer mountain would be a GREAT spot for some RV spots.
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Postby RamboPreacher » June 16th, 2008, 4:40 am

paul wrote:Rambo, thanks for the tour......Been many many years. I was saddened that so many of the markers seemd to be in much need of repair. While I watched it, it just seemed like and Era so long ago that passed. That is not meant to be demeaning in any way...... I still have fond memories with my wife and children at some of the services there.

BTW: do I send you my $5 for a c.p.m.a. card ? :lol:

Continue to pray for the situation in Iowa.......
it's $10 now. :)
and yes, sadly - ther eis much in disrepair. the concrete used is disintegrating in many places, especially the 10 commandments laying on the ground.

I don't think that concrete is the best option for that kind of thing, but then, when it was built, maybe a plastic/resin/fiberglass wasn't really an option. :)

the lambs at the sides are nearly indiscernible as lambs now :(

the stucco on teh back of the Big Bible at the top of the 10 commandments had blown off apparently from some high-winds recently.

speaking of the annual membership, I am not fully privy to all the financial issues of the wood, but I understand that the membership has declined so much that it is very difficult to just keep going forward, let alone any kind of retrospective repairing, and maintenance (even with local volunteer).

I am saddened myself at the disrepair, and especially at some of the markers that "remain", even after some of the recent changes in the COGOP.

This being my choice in heritage, I understand the history, and the beliefs. I am still saddened that some of these markers still exist - or better yet, maybe a disclaimer or something similar added, so as to not change the initial/original markers.

just because I choose this organization, doesn't mean I agree with it's past (as they wouldn't even have me!), or even some of it's current stands. This is where GOd has placed me and will continue working through as I learn and as we all do our best to walk in the light of God's word as it is illuminated to us.

I believe that these acres could be used for other things, that could make it "pay for itself" more than relying on donations from people that will never see it, or never visit it.
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Postby PastorDaniel » June 16th, 2008, 4:44 am

Thanks for CHOOSING to be a part Rambo...you're awesome and we need more like you!! That goes for your wife too.

I grew up in this group..but left...and chose to come back later...but only because they were changing...and I too wish for CONTINUED change in several areas!

Praying for you up in Iowa...
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Postby RamboPreacher » June 16th, 2008, 5:19 am

PastorDaniel wrote:sigline:
Grace & Peace,
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Postby MacUser » June 16th, 2008, 5:28 am

Chris -

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John 1:29

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Postby paul » June 16th, 2008, 5:36 am

Rambo

just because I choose this organization, doesn't mean I agree with it's past (as they wouldn't even have me!), or even some of it's current stands. This is where GOd has placed me and will continue working through as I learn and as we all do our best to walk in the light of God's word as it is illuminated to us.


Rambo, I admire your conviction and support you in it. I also share a common conviction as to where God has placed me at this time in my life, calling and work for Him.
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Postby Brenda » June 16th, 2008, 9:32 am

Its a shame this place has been neglected of repairs.
But it takes funds and the only way to get funds is from people. And people are not going to give if they have never heard of the place or its significance.
I can't remember the last time I've heard about this place being spoken of from the pulpit. Maybe 15 -20 years. *shrugs*
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Postby Brenda » June 16th, 2008, 9:37 am

[quote="MacUser"]Is this the way it used to look?
http://www.northparkchurch.com/photo/in ... lbum&id=43[/quote]
:) ...Yep, she once was beautiful, wasn't she?
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Postby RamboPreacher » June 16th, 2008, 9:56 am

you're welcome to join us at our church in Iowa - I am the local heritage booster (and treasurer), so I get to talk about many times a year (some of those when I am receiving the offering). :) come on up! you can help redistribute some sandbags too.
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Postby paul » June 16th, 2008, 9:58 am

I was born in 1946. I have a photo on my mantle with my mother and father standing in front of a glass store front church. I was about 6 months old. behind the glass front is the photo of fields of the wood. On the window was lettered Church of God before the prophecy began to be added.
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Postby soulsearcher » June 16th, 2008, 10:38 am

MacUser wrote:Is this the way it used to look?
http://www.northparkchurch.com/photo/in ... lbum&id=43


Yes, MacUser. THAT is the Fields of the Wood (photos 2 & 3) I remember visiting from the late 50's to the early 80's.


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