Jude 2

Rocketown, a Christian hangout in Nashville, Tn just steps from the Sommet Center, is in the news tonight. It seems that the lead singer of a rock band exposed himself to the crowd and the band was quickly ushered from the stage.

Why on Earth would such groups be allowed to perform at a Christian forum?

Full Quiver wrote:Rocketown, a Christian hangout in Nashville, Tn just steps from the Sommet Center, is in the news tonight. It seems that the lead singer of a rock band exposed himself to the crowd and the band was quickly ushered from the stage.

Why on Earth would such groups be allowed to perform at a Christian forum?

Ben Cissell, the one who gave the statement on the situation, is a former guitarist for Audio Adrenaline, by the way.

I would have jumped the guy and beat him down...the singer, that is.

Because rocketown is not a christan forum. Ive been there several times, and ANYONE can play a show there, heck you and i could sign up to play a show there haha. They dont serve alcohol and thats about it. There are tons of kids outside smoking.....they have bands play there all the time who are very non-christian and use lots of profanity.

I guess it started out as a christian haven, but has slowly progressed into just a kid-friendly non-alcohol venue.

this is why I dont have any confidence in places like this. So many so called christian rock bands keep getting caught doing drugs etc.
Plus some of these places are perfect drawing gorunds for dealers, you may not think so but it is a way to get those involved with drugs that normally wouldnt, then they influence other s etc.
I am not saying all these places it is a general comment of some.

In Chesapeake Va My sister had a friend who owned a christian coffee shop and that place was cool. They had study sections, bible studies on certain nights, youth gatherings with christian bands (though when some of there bands came forget it, the drew a large crowd of people that were smoking, cursing among other things outside)
But they also had a poetry night, that place was a nice environment but it took a lot of work. The hardest part was when they had a band come because knowing enough about these peoplea is very hard.

Well in the interview the employee made it clear the band was not Christian and said they knew who we are and what we are about and I think they were trying to prove something.

If I am correct Michael W. Smith owns the place. It is a shame that it has evolved into this. The "club" has every right to set boundaries and say no. If they think that by saying no smoking the kids, young adults (hopefully they aren't letting kids smoke) won't come then they are mistaken. For everyone that doesn't come there will be at least one nonsmoker that will. The same goes for the music. I'm not saying that have to have Christian songs played all the time but the groups should never be offensive or questionable.
If it is like every other "club" then what is the point?

Full Quiver wrote: It seems that the lead singer of a rock band exposed himself to the crowd and the band was quickly ushered from the stage.

Everybody wants to be Jim Morrison.

I wanna be Bob Dylan
Mr Jones wishes he was someone just a little more funky

Full Quiver wrote:The "club" has every right to set boundaries and say no. If they think that by saying no smoking the kids, young adults (hopefully they aren't letting kids smoke) won't come then they are mistaken. For everyone that doesn't come there will be at least one nonsmoker that will.

So, you believe in "cleaning before the catch, eh?" I think it's great if kids who smoke, drink, or are bound by other sins even have a desire to be anywhere near a club with Christian connotation.

We see kids smoking outside the RAMP. These kids are not all Christians, but they are coming into contact with the truth of God's word and that can't be a bad thing.

pa

My husband worked with a guy recently whose band played at Rocketown, also recently. We looked up their website... we turned off the music FAST. I like rock but they describe themselves as "dark and heavy". It showed.

I could see bringing in clean acts that are not necessarily Christian. I MIGHT be able to see letting the kids that come there play their own stuff (with rules of course). But purposely booking people like this makes no sense to me.

Pastorables, you don't know me well if you think I clean em before I catch em. MY points are these. First off, kids have no business smoking. We have a Christian night club on Friday's at church. IF we allowed the kids to smoke we would be not only bad Christians but bad chaperons and citizens. Second we play music but it is wholesome, not necessarily Christian worship etc.

Sure we want all kinds to come to these type places so that they can be SAFE and be introduced to the Gospel. I'm beginning to wonder if that is happening at all in Rocketown's case.

Full Quiver wrote:Pastorables, you don't know me well if you think I clean em before I catch em. MY points are these. First off, kids have no business smoking. We have a Christian night club on Friday's at church. IF we allowed the kids to smoke we would be not only bad Christians but bad chaperons and citizens. Second we play music but it is wholesome, not necessarily Christian worship etc.

I wasn't judging your character, only making an observation based upon your post.

Your words:

For everyone that doesn't come there will be at least one nonsmoker that will.

You framed your statement in a way that sounded insensitive toward those kids who blow smoke (in more ways than one ).

one love wrote:this is why I dont have any confidence in places like this. So many so called christian rock bands keep getting caught doing drugs etc.
Plus some of these places are perfect drawing gorunds for dealers, you may not think so but it is a way to get those involved with drugs that normally wouldnt, then they influence other s etc.
I am not saying all these places it is a general comment of some.
.

Can you give me some names of such bands?

OK I am not a smoker, a drinker or use any curse words what so ever, however I am not sure we can say because someone says a word we don't agree with or because someone may drink from time to time or smokes from time to time does not mean that they are not Christians.

While I do think that these things should be done many people have a relationship with Christ and do these things, Dog the bounty hunter says he is a Christian and he talks like a sailor, they have went to bars (I assume they are drinking) they have talked about getting strippers. Jon and Kate, we have seen on here about how they go to an AOG, I saw on one of their shows they were drinking wine when they were out to eat with friends. I don't see someone smoking as any worst than "Self-medicating" with wine at dinner

I have not been to rockettown in years, so I don't know how it is now. BUT I do think all they can do is say "no smoking" on the inside of the building, They can only tell people to not use foul language.

I think they need to press charges, make this guy a registered sex offender, I would have him, his band, his manager and his record company in court for the losses they will suffer. On here alone people are calling into question how "Christian" the place is.

TC wrote:Jon and Kate, we have seen on here about how they go to an AOG, I saw on one of their shows they were drinking wine when they were out to eat with friends. I don't see someone smoking as any worst than "Self-medicating" with wine at dinner.

I don't have a doubt in my mind that Jon & Kate are Christians. I suspect that the disciples had a glass or two of "wine when they were out to eat with friends."

Calling into question how Christian they are? Well I am in no way questioning the salvation of any other owners or employees but even in the news reports the club NEVER said they were Christian. When it first opened that was their selling point.

pastorables wrote:

Full Quiver wrote:The "club" has every right to set boundaries and say no. If they think that by saying no smoking the kids, young adults (hopefully they aren't letting kids smoke) won't come then they are mistaken. For everyone that doesn't come there will be at least one nonsmoker that will.

So, you believe in "cleaning before the catch, eh?" I think it's great if kids who smoke, drink, or are bound by other sins even have a desire to be anywhere near a club with Christian connotation.

We see kids smoking outside the RAMP. These kids are not all Christians, but they are coming into contact with the truth of God's word and that can't be a bad thing.

pa

It had nothing to with that with me. My point is if you are going to have a good clean place for christians to fellowship then, it should be that. You cant call something a good clean place and have people doing things that you are trying to avoid , it has nothing to do with not reaching the lost or any such thing with me, I do see your point but these type of clubs all seem to be the same......

one love wrote:It had nothing to with that with me. My point is if you are going to have a good clean place for christians to fellowship then, it should be that. You cant call something a good clean place and have people doing things that you are trying to avoid , it has nothing to do with not reaching the lost or any such thing with me, I do see your point but these type of clubs all seem to be the same......

I was in on the Rocketown concept from the earliest days. The father of singer Stacie Orrico, Dean Orrico, was on the original planning board, and we were email friends for a long time. (Back in the days when I co-produced a bunch of concerts) Rocketown was never designed to be a "place for christians to fellowship."

Here's the stated purpose--
"Rocketown of Middle TennesseeRocketown is a non-profit, faith based youth entertainment, recreation and outreach facility."

Key words... recreation... outreach... Outreach doesn't mean a place for Christian kids to hang out; it means a place to attract the kind of kids you normally try to keep your own kids away from, and having a lot of volunteer Christian youth workers around as role models.