Jude 2

And it's not his wife!

From the Fresh Fire Board of Directors:

We wish to acknowledge, however, that since our last statement from the Fresh Fire Board of Directors, we have discovered new information revealing that Todd Bentley has entered into an unhealthy relationship on an emotional level with a female member of his staff. In light of this new information and in consultation with his leaders and advisors, Todd Bentley has agreed to step down from his position on the Board of Directors and to refrain from all public ministry for a season to receive counsel in his personal life.

I wonder if "Bam!" was a secret injoke between them?

are you saying that when he said Bam, Bam, Bam, Bam, Bam, Bam, Bam that he was thinking of something else other than prayer and healing?

Gerald Creasy wrote:And it's not his wife!

From the Fresh Fire Board of Directors:

We wish to acknowledge, however, that since our last statement from the Fresh Fire Board of Directors, we have discovered new information revealing that Todd Bentley has entered into an unhealthy relationship on an emotional level with a female member of his staff. In light of this new information and in consultation with his leaders and advisors, Todd Bentley has agreed to step down from his position on the Board of Directors and to refrain from all public ministry for a season to receive counsel in his personal life.

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link please. is this on a website?

jinjer wrote:www.freshfire.ca

thank you!

Todd Bentley is DONE.

paul wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwfLjiL7JME&NR=1

Throw out a Lifeline????

I have several lifelines tiers available:

For a 5$ fee I have one made of string.

For 20$ I have one made of woven twine.

For 50$ I have one of cheap rope.

At the Parter level of 250$ theres the unbreakable rope.

For a Love offering of 500$ I'll even put a Life Preserver on it.

Careful though, I'm a bad shot. Chances are I'll bust you upside the head heaving it out.

All I can say Is I felt from the begining that there was something that did not feal right with my spirit. I had pastors know talking about it and I calmly said I would refrain from placing to much trust in this. i remember when this first came out here nobody really knew what to think, I know gerald and Myself and a few others quickly stated that something was not right , all in our different ways.

With that said I will pray for him and his marriage and I dont want to assume and I did not read that article but is this saying that he was having a affair with this woman while doing these revivals?
If so what about all the people that went and said he is the real thing???? Or all those in some other fourms and we have read them that thought he was the greatest thing?
We must try the spirits see if they are of God, things just did not line up with his word, now knowing this I just pray for him that he is ok with the Lord.
I pray that some sort of restitution is made.

paul wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwfLjiL7JME&NR=1

Amen!

one love wrote:If so what about all the people that went and said he is the real thing???? Or all those in some other fourms and we have read them that thought he was the greatest thing?
We must try the spirits see if they are of God, things just did not line up with

Real thing? Do we really have the power to see man's heart and make these judgments? The Bible instructs us not to compare ourselves among ourselves anyway. What about Jimmy Swaggert? What about Ted Haggard? What about ministers throughout COGOP history who have failed? What about ministers in other organizations? If Jentzen Franklin falls from grace tomorrow, that doesn't invalidate the positives connected to his ministry accomplished by the Lord's hand.

Show me one man who has never failed. What about the life of David? At times something to shout over, yet at other times something to shame over. I'm sorry this has happened. These things hurt the body of Christ as a whole, not just one church or organization.

While never being able to cast more than cautious observation for Todd Bentley's ministry, I still contend that the local church involved and thousands of visitors were likely blessed of the Lord. It was never about a man to begin with, or shouldn't have been. Not only does the Bentley's need prayer, but many prayers should be sent up for those who have been discouraged and disheartened by these events.

pa

Real thing? Do we really have the power to see man's heart and make these judgments?

See in a mans heart who said anything like that?
try the spirits? ummm yes.... In the sense of comparing it to the word of God. Are you saying you cant. It is not about a man falling such as swaggart. I like Jimmy swaggart and really like his son, above all tv preachers, that is not it. I dont care he fell he got back up.
But yes if one is so far from the bible I dont trust it.

The other main point of my post was we should pray for him through all this that is what is important.

one love wrote:With that said I will pray for him and his marriage and I dont want to assume and I did not read that article but is this saying that he was having a affair with this woman while doing these revivals?

The letter from his ministry stated he was in a relationship "on an emotional level"- so, perhaps no actual affair has taken place.

He is undergoing steps to receive restoration; another prominent ministry couple divorced last year without missing a beat in their ministr(ies) or acknowledging any problem with that... this happens so often, and it is sad; this is another family we need to pray for.

Jennifer Smith wrote:

one love wrote:With that said I will pray for him and his marriage and I dont want to assume and I did not read that article but is this saying that he was having a affair with this woman while doing these revivals?

The letter from his ministry stated he was in a relationship "on an emotional level"- so, perhaps no actual affair has taken place.

He is undergoing steps to receive restoration; another prominent ministry couple divorced last year without missing a beat in their ministr(ies) or acknowledging any problem with that... this happens so often, and it is sad; this is another family we need to pray for.

Right you are Jennifer -- it said emotional relationship and nothing about anything sexual. However, the way I see it, when you have a wife already and you're getting emotionally involved with someone else it's just about as bad as getting a little frisky physically.

Remember that this all happened DURING his "revival." I don't want to crucify the man and in some odd way I feel for him, but remember this happened while he was in a time of ministry. A lot of people are going to be betrayed and hurt.

Forget about the fact that "the Army of God is the only Army that shoots their wounded" -- with media jumping all over this and a lot of people who were not genuinely healed at the Lakeland revival more apt to speak out against Bentley and his actions, this could be a big black eye for all of Christianity.

I wasn't a fan of the Florida "Outpouring" in the first place, and like One Love, I had a lot of personal red flags go up about the entire movement. Stuff like kicking a man who had cancer of the stomach, in the stomach. (Tell me anywhere in the NT when Jesus healed someone, he caused physical pain to them.)

I am simply amazed that Christianity as a whole seems to not really "get it" -- after all the televangelism crockery we've seen on TV and the exposition of Brownsville, the Toronto Blessing and others -- we're all still ready to run after the "next big thing" -- and I can't help but wonder if Christianity doesn't deserve to be made fun of after something like this.

As for Bentley, I don't see how he could have a credible ministry in the Body of Christ anytime soon. The man has fallen, and fallen hard. It is our duty to pray for him because maybe God can use this to change his perception of the Lord and His ways, and to remember to keep our eyes on Christ and Christ alone.

Jennifer Smith wrote:[

The letter from his ministry stated he was in a relationship "on an emotional level"- so, perhaps no actual affair has taken place.

The statement "on an emotional level" is too vague and leaves room for speculation in my opinion. I believe Steve Urkel used the term "emotional adultery" in one episode of Family Matters. It was the first time I had ever heard that thought, but to me it sounds somewhat like the scripture concerning inappropriate desire in the Bible.

Matthew 5:28 But I say to you that everyone whose eyes are turned on a woman with desire has had connection with her in his heart. (BEB)