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Postby Full Quiver » August 20th, 2008, 5:48 pm

AJ Tomlinson and the church of God/CoGoP are credited with digging out covered over truths from the Word of God.

Would anyone care to delve into such truths? What I am getting at is exactly what truths did AJ or any member of the organizations he oversaw dig out? (I am not talking about the teachings or truths they borrowed from other groups)

I want to say that I appreciate AJ Tomlinson, the life he lived, his dedication to both the Lord and His creation, and his zeal. He should be honored for that if nothing else. I don't think that I could ever view him as a bad person.
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Postby Full Quiver » August 21st, 2008, 1:08 pm

What? no want wants in on this?

Let me start; maybe some clarity is needed.


Water Baptism

Neither AJ nor the church he oversaw dug this truth out of the scripture.

Sanctification
This was taught by the Wesley brothers many years before AJ and the CoG picked it up.

Justification
As we know Martin Luther dug this up.

Divine Healing
AJ copied this from A.B. Simpson.

I could go on but I want you guys to join in. Even his thoughts on exclusivity were borrowed.
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Postby MrDanger » August 21st, 2008, 1:17 pm

Probably no one is responding to it because we don't/didn't believe he uncovered new truth in the scriptures. It's why I didn't respond.
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Postby Full Quiver » August 21st, 2008, 1:18 pm

Great answer Jeff.
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Postby THE RAzEr » August 21st, 2008, 4:05 pm

Full Quiver wrote:Great answer Jeff.


I think Jeff answered correctly. I might add that AJT and those who surrounded his work did not teach that they did all the great uncovering. They did however teach when many of these you mentioned uncovered some of these great Biblical teaching, there it was just as it had been before it was covered by creeda and doctrins of men: the great Church Of God.

Tomlinson compared it to the great city of Pompeiii which had been coved by the valcano, but was discovered just as it was before the covering.

In UPON THIS ROCK Tomlinson is credited in 1903 wanting to become a part of the Group, because they believed the Bilble. They accepted all but one of their 29 teachings within five years.

So rather than a claim to new revelation, Tomlinso should be rememberd as one who wanted to hold to doctrines which he believed were the same as the early church believed, rather than discover some great new one.

There are various views of how well he did, but I agree with you, he was a man who deserves to be remembered. I think his work will be greatly rewarded. Or, may be it already has been.

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Postby MrDanger » August 21st, 2008, 4:38 pm

Full Quiver wrote:Great answer Jeff.


Why thank you. And I appreciate your sincerity.
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Postby MrDanger » August 22nd, 2008, 7:55 am

Full Quiver wrote:AJ Tomlinson and the church of God/CoGoP are credited with digging out covered over truths from the Word of God.


In going back and re-reading your question, I have this question for you. Who has credited AJ and the church with digging out covered truths? A serious question and not being sarcastic. Just wondering?
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Postby Full Quiver » August 22nd, 2008, 10:40 am

TcoG Jeff! We were told they cried and crawled on their faces, etc., etc., etc. Not to mention that it i the church and who else has such access to truth?
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Postby one love » August 22nd, 2008, 1:02 pm

Full Quiver wrote:TcoG Jeff! We were told they cried and crawled on their faces, etc., etc., etc. Not to mention that it i the church and who else has such access to truth?

That is not exactly true Full Quiver , not in that context. We believe just as was taught in COGOP for all those years. We believe these men have been guided by the Lord and accepted certain things as truth and been led of the Lord on certain doctrines.
We hold no claim to inventing sanctification, the holy ghost, justification, regeneration and all that goes with atonement. We believe we have taken all these truths together as they were done away with in years past. We believe that the great reformers uncovered many of these truths, some practice some of these and others practice others. We believe we take the whole bible rightly divided and practice all these truths.

Now we do believe that they were in prayer and that is where our basic bible beliefs were put together and other things of doctrine but it has never been taught that we claim to have found or discovered the things that were being brought to light for 1000 years.....

If you have been told we invented sanctification or anything like that I would love to know where, My library is pretty large with books and have yet to see that.
Now the wesleys did beleive in sanctification/perfection as they called it.
Martin Luther/Justification etc.
Read the markers in Fields of the wood the credit is given :lol:

as far as :

Water Baptism
Neither AJ nor the church he oversaw dug this truth out of the scripture.

Sanctification
This was taught by the Wesley brothers many years before AJ and the CoG picked it up.

Justification
As we know Martin Luther dug this up.

Divine Healing
AJ copied this from A.B. Simpson.


we never claimed to... and preaching something is now copying??? Better not teach salvation this week :lol: :lol: What is with the big TCOG kick lately :shock: :lol:




I may be misreading this and it is posible as mentioned I have had a hard week. Feel free to clear anything I said up that could be false but God was not asleep between 325A.D. to 1903 :wink:

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Postby Full Quiver » August 22nd, 2008, 8:49 pm

But the church was asleep wasn't she?

I didn't say TCoG invented sanctification or any other thing.

I merely asked for someone to tell us what doctrine, if any, AJ and the others did uncover. :wink:
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Postby Shellie » August 23rd, 2008, 4:09 am

Hello!!! You all are forgetting that he uncovered Sally Pratt.
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Postby Gerald Creasy » August 23rd, 2008, 4:13 am

Full Quiver wrote:I merely asked for someone to tell us what doctrine, if any, AJ and the others did uncover. :wink:


Come on FQ.

It's the doctrine we "never taught" but built monuments to in a back woods holler.


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