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speaking of politics

Posted: August 21st, 2008, 1:14 pm
by Full Quiver

Posted: August 21st, 2008, 1:35 pm
by one love
I for one love alan keyes, I thought he whooped Bush in the debates.

Posted: August 21st, 2008, 4:45 pm
by DaJudge
Let's all remember that Obama has whooped Alan Keyes' but once already, for the Illinois Senate seat he now occupies.

I like Keyes too, but let's be realistic here.

Posted: August 21st, 2008, 4:59 pm
by Full Quiver
but is Illinois a conservative state?

Posted: August 21st, 2008, 5:03 pm
by DaJudge
Clearly, no. However, what would a conservative Independent coming into the race do? It divides the McCain vote, and provides an easy path for election for Obama. That is, if Keyes gets any significant traction or support, which I doubt.

Posted: August 21st, 2008, 5:44 pm
by Full Quiver
Who knows, if McCain picks a pro-choice VP such as Rudi then Keyes may get real traction.

Posted: August 22nd, 2008, 3:44 am
by DeWayneTN
What is that Deniece Williams song? Too much, too little, too late.....

Posted: August 22nd, 2008, 3:48 am
by DaJudge
Unfortunately for Keyes, he didn't get a whole lot of support the last time he ran for prez either.

Posted: August 22nd, 2008, 3:49 am
by DeWayneTN
I like his politics but I don't think I could listen to four years of public addresses. His voice is annoying. Of course, John McCain is no Casey Kasem himself.

Posted: August 22nd, 2008, 4:25 am
by dolfan
In defense of Keyes, in his Senate race in Illinois, Keyes was a token to replace the embarrassed Republican primary winner, Jack Ryan. His wife was an actress and it came out from their divorce records, unsealed 5 years after the fact, that he had gotten her to go to sex clubs, etc. Ryan withdrew late in the race and the party got Keyes to move to an apartment in Illinois from his true home in Maryland, and Keyes did so and accepted the Republican nomination as their Senate candidate so Obama wouldn't run unopposed.

If Keyes had been the nominee in Illinois, he still would've lost. He's way too conservative for Chicago. But, he lost as badly as he did mainly because of the Ryan scandal and the fact that he's not from Illinois.

In rejection of Keyes as a candidate now, let me say I think as highly of Alan Keyes as I do any political philosopher who ever lived. He's underappreciated. But, he cannot help us avoid an Obama presidency, and it is symptomatic of his political tone-deafness that he would consider an independent candidacy now.