Jude 2

Curious to know who is and isn't from a "Confederate" State. Especially if you consider yourself a Confederate at heart. Were you born in one? Do you live in one? How many of y'all is there out there in Jude 2 land?

Let me hear a rebel yell (read as "reply below")!

there is no such thing, unless you are in reference to the historical view, and not a view of modernity of THE (not these) United States of America.


sounds as if you are promoting a schism.

RamboPreacher wrote:there is no such thing, unless you are in reference to the historical view, and not a view of modernity of THE (not these) United States of America.


sounds as if you are promoting a schism.

It's a southern thing: A people who picniced in battlefields where their relatives died, who know where civil war soldiers lie, who have schools, parks and Highways named for Confederates, who go to plow their garden and still turn over cannonballs, bullets and bayonets.

And who are stinking tired of having their region and people broadbrushed as ignorant racists.

RamboPreacher wrote:there is no such thing

I was speaking in the historic and cultural sense. However, I would have you to know that the Confederate States of America does still exist. It is an occuppied nation, absorbed into the Union by force. So, our (meaing Confederates, Southeners, or Southrons) nationality is dual. One defacto, and the other dejure.

Are you talking about the good people that stood strong and proud in the War of Northern Aggression?

People that truly know history understand that the Civil War did not start because of slavery, but that slavery was used as a political move to win the war. Those are the only people that understand that Southern pride does not necessarily equate racism.

With that being said, it reminds me of a little story.

A Yankee general was speaking to a Southern POW. He told the prisoner that the North had not wanted the war. When the Southern prisoner stated that the South had not wanted the war either, the Northern general replied with, "Then why did you shoot the first shot?" The Rebel prisoner replied, "Because ya'll were down here, Sir."

Well, I ain't skeered....I'M a Confederate! I had a great-great grandfather killed in the War Between the States, and at least two other family members who served.

I will NOT forget my heritage, no matter what people think. It's sort of like COGOP. Lots that was done in the past is looked down upon and scoffed at now. Some folks are ridiculed, some are reverenced. The FACT of the matter is that all that happened in the history of COGOP is my heritage. Most all those folks were as sincere as a human can be in their lifetime, and I respect that.

The same goes for those in the South who fought in the war. I respect them, and what they fought for. I have a family member who gave his life in the defense of his home and family. He did not take that obligation lightly. He DEFINITELY owned no slaves, and I'll bet he didn't even know anyone personally who DID own slaves.

Yeah, I'm a Confederate. Always will be.
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Gerald Creasy wrote:

RamboPreacher wrote:there is no such thing, unless you are in reference to the historical view, and not a view of modernity of THE (not these) United States of America.


sounds as if you are promoting a schism.

It's a southern thing: A people who picniced in battlefields where their relatives died, who know where civil war soldiers lie, who have schools, parks and Highways named for Confederates, who go to plow their garden and still turn over cannonballs, bullets and bayonets.

And who are stinking tired of having their region and people broadbrushed as ignorant racists.

I see - thanks.

Poimen wrote:

RamboPreacher wrote:there is no such thing

I was speaking in the historic and cultural sense. However, I would have you to know that the Confederate States of America does still exist. It is an occuppied nation, absorbed into the Union by force. So, our (meaing Confederates, Southeners, or Southrons) nationality is dual. One defacto, and the other dejure.

I see, I was correct - schismatic.

Ahhh Imagine that. Looks like the folks from Iowa are still angry that the south voted to keep them from becoming a state.

I have been known to both fly and wear the stars and bars.

Take a drive through TN, NC, Virginia, etc. and tell me what you feel. If it isn't sacredness then I can't help you. Some good men were willing to die for states rights in the spirit of our forefathers. That mentality didn't die with Washington, Adams, and Jefferson but it may have died with Davis, Lee, and Jackson.

FACT: The Lincoln government paid enough for the war they could have purchased every slave in the entire continental United States TWICE.

Gerald Creasy wrote:FACT: The Lincoln government paid enough for the war they could have purchased every slave in the entire continental United States TWICE.

And that would've ended slavery?

I have been known to both fly and wear the stars and bars.

And what do you think that says to your black neighbors and brothers and sisters? Does it mean the same thing to them as it does to you?

What is the purpose of this thread again?

Jennifer Smith wrote:...
What is the purpose of this thread again?

It appears to be a point to show/continue division, rather than educate on historical context - at least for some.

And this, yet once again, is why you people LOST.

Wow. That got ugly fast.

RamboPreacher wrote:

Jennifer Smith wrote:...
What is the purpose of this thread again?

It appears to be a point to show/continue division, rather than educate on historical context - at least for some.

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The Confederate States of America (CSA, also known as the Confederacy) was the confederacy formed by the southern states that seceded from the United States during the period of the American Civil War. The 11 states of the Confederacy were Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas and Virginia.

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