Jude 2

Kenneth Copeland wrote:“The Spirit of God spoke to me and He said, ‘Son, realize this. Now follow me in this and don’t let your tradition trip you up.’ He said, ‘Think this way—a twice-born man whipped Satan in his own domain.’ And I threw my Bible down … like that. I said, ‘What?’ He said, ‘A born-again man defeated Satan, the firstborn of many brethren defeated him.’ He said, ‘You are the very image, the very copy of that one.’ I said, ‘Well now you don’t mean, you couldn’t dare mean, that I could have done the same thing?’ He said, ‘Oh yeah, if you’d had the knowledge of the Word of God that He did, you could’ve done the same thing, ‘cause you’re a reborn man too.”

Why this idiot still has a tv ministry is beyond me.

WHY it is okay to preach such DUNG?

It's not, and he will answer for it, in God's time, if he doesn't repent. But you have to remember that God is not willing that Kenneth Copeland should perish anymore than He is that you should.

Anger and disgust at him accomplishes nothing but poisoning your own soul. Pray for that poor, sad man. He's tying a millstone around his own neck.

Gerald,

Can you give source for those statements other than a third party site? Is this old news or something stated more recently?

Thanks,
pa

pastorables wrote:Gerald,

Can you give source for those statements other than a third party site? Is this old news or something stated more recently?

Thanks,
pa

It is old teaching he has not discounted.

I heard it with my own ears.

Are you serious? He is stating he could have done what Christ did? What is this world coming to?
The sad thing is most people dont look into statements like this in depth and feel it just means we could resist the devil. They think all the people that follow him his words must be just.

I dont care what church you go to, what organization you belong to, it is a necessity that we follow behind those in pulpits and make sure they are preaching the truth. This is one reason it is hard to stop it because there is nobody that can hold him accountable.

I pray that if his intent as it seems that the Lord would help him to see his error.

Copeland also teaches that God is a man and the occultic teaching that Speaking WORDS are creative power given to man.


You know as James says "You receive not cause you don't speak it!!"

Gerald Creasy wrote:

Kenneth Copeland wrote:“The Spirit of God spoke to me and He said, ‘Son, realize this. Now follow me in this and don’t let your tradition trip you up.’ He said, ‘Think this way—a twice-born man whipped Satan in his own domain.’ And I threw my Bible down … like that. I said, ‘What?’ He said, ‘A born-again man defeated Satan, the firstborn of many brethren defeated him.’ He said, ‘You are the very image, the very copy of that one.’ I said, ‘Well now you don’t mean, you couldn’t dare mean, that I could have done the same thing?’ He said, ‘Oh yeah, if you’d had the knowledge of the Word of God that He did, you could’ve done the same thing, ‘cause you’re a reborn man too.”

Why this idiot still has a tv ministry is beyond me.

WHY it is okay to preach such DUNG?

The statement is qualified with an IF. IF Copeland knew the word like Jesus did. However, the IF is not enough to substantiate the statement!

It was not how much of the word Jesus knew, it was that Jesus was the WORD. This is something Copeland, or myself for that matter can never be. We can not BE the WORD.

Also, to claim Jesus as being Born Again is to me a mistake of great proportion. Jesus had no need of being born again. He, the WORD, was made flesh, but, the fullness of the Godhead dwelt in Him. He was Christ at His birth, as much as at His death, or His ressurection. He did not progressively become the WORD. He grew as a man, but there was no progression of His Diety. He had no need to have a second birth. His first birth was for our benefit, and not for His.

I think if anyone believes these statements attributed to Copeland, they are wrong.

Ray

Christ was the firstborn not reborn.