Jude 2

Read an article about illegal alien raid, wanted to see what your thoughts were.

"Fear Grips Immigrants After Largest Raid in U.S. History at Mississippi Plant"

"We have kids without dads and pregnant mothers who got their husbands taken away," said Velez's son, Robert, youth pastor at the church. "It was like a horror story. They got handled like they were criminals."
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Maybe because many of them ARE CRIMINALS!!!

Sure, they may not be burglars, murders, molesters, ect. etc. But if they are here illegally then they are in fact "criminals" according to the law.

Also, I think the headline is very telling about the shift in classifing criminal behavior (being an illegal immagrant to being a legal Immagrant). People who come to our country illegally, defraud the government with fake Social Security, have fake ID's, lie to get welfare, foodstamp, etc, etc, are CRIMINALS!! They are NOT the same as legal, law abiding Immagrants who follow the rule of law in America and get here the right way.

I'm not saying that non-american peoples don't have the right to the freedoms and liberties that immagrants have long sought after and came to this great country for. I am only saying to do it the right way. And don't cry foul when you get caught for not.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,411462,00.html

I was in court yesterday. One of the defendants in there was from Mexico. Drug charge. First time in trouble, apparently. The judge suspended his sentence and gave him probation, and promptly turned to the probation officer and said, "He has no papers. He is not here legally. Are you going to contact INS?" The unspoken part of that glare was, "I will not sentence him to custody and let Alabama tax dollars house and feed him when we can get him sent back to Mexico. So, don't just sit there. Call Immigration or I will."

Brian wrote:I am only saying to do it the right way. And don't cry foul when you get caught for not.

They are doing it the right way, i.e. the way our government and businesses want them to. Your problem is with our country's de facto immigration policy, not these folks' misdemeanors.

forestwalker wrote:

Brian wrote:I am only saying to do it the right way. And don't cry foul when you get caught for not.

They are doing it the right way, i.e. the way our government and businesses want them to. Your problem is with our country's de facto immigration policy, not these folks' misdemeanors.

That very well may be, but these misdemeanors are still legal infractions and shouldn't be swept under the rug. I may not agree with every law, misdemeanor, felony or otherwise. But it is still our legal system. We don't change laws by breaking them.

From Wiki: Misdemeanor:
"Depending on the jurisdiction, examples of misdemeanors may include: petty theft, prostitution, public intoxication, simple assault, disorderly conduct, trespass, vandalism, and other similar crimes. In the United States, misdemeanors are crimes with a maximum punishment of 12 months of incarceration, typically in a local jail (again, as contrasted with felons, who are typically incarcerated in a prison). Those people who are convicted of misdemeanors are often punished with probation, community service or part-time imprisonment, served on the weekends."

Those "misdemeanor" crimes are still crimes none the less. If someone steals $50 from you would you say the law is unfair if he is arrested and made to repay your money? Maybe the guy really needed it? Or perhaps I vandalize your home with some nice graphitti? Simple assault? Lets see if someone was to smack you around a bit if you would say they were being unfairly picked on if they were arrested and detained according to the law?

Just because illegal aliens are here for the greater good of raising there families and taking care of themselves doesn't mean they should do it at the exspense of law abiding citizens. I'm not saying it's an unjust law, but if it were, an unjust law shouldn't be broken and ignored just because it may be unjust. It should be changed if need be, or reworded in a fair and unbias manner. Not just ignored and broken at will and, like I said, cry fowl when the payment for that infraction is owed.

(as a side note)
PERJURY DEFINED:

Perjury is the act of lying or making verifiably false statements on a material matter under oath or affirmation in a court of law or in any of various sworn statements in writing. Perjury is a crime because the witness has sworn to tell the truth and, for the credibility of the court, witness testimony must be relied on as being truthful. Perjury is considered a very serious crime as it could be used to usurp the power of the courts, resulting in miscarriages of justice. In the United States, for example, the general perjury statute under Federal law provides for a prison sentence of up to five years, and is found at 18 U.S.C. � 1621. See also 28 U.S.C. � 1746.

The rules for perjury also apply when a person has made a statement under penalty of perjury, even if the person has not been sworn or affirmed as a witness before an appropriate official. An example of this is the United States' income tax return, which, by law, must be signed as true and correct under penalty of perjury (see 26 U.S.C. � 6065). Federal tax law provides criminal penalties of up to three years in prison for violation of the tax return perjury statute. See 26 U.S.C. � 7206(1).

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If nothing else many illegal aliens do in fact commit perjury when they falsify official documents such as social security card, drivers license, welfair, etc. etc.
If I read it correctly, pergury is a federal crime and therefore be more than just a misdemeanor.