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Power Point

Posted: September 10th, 2008, 9:05 pm
by Ilovebigcats
I am adding some images to our power point songs. Does anyone have anything cool they would like to share?

wemmies at gmail dot com

Posted: September 11th, 2008, 2:09 am
by RamboPreacher
images to PPTs of songs?

if there is a budget, you may wnat to get a different program for your songs. I am sure Billy would be glad to assist.

I am not a proponent of the "foofoo" added to P&W projections of the words of the songs. But I know many are, the program(s) available even allow video clips and loops, to have beautiful cloud scenes roll by, or waves on a shoreline, etc... - if that's what you want.

Posted: September 11th, 2008, 4:11 am
by Billy n NC
Ilovebigcats
Check out this website.
I created it for my customers primarily but have been shairng more and more.

http://www.ebroach.net/websites/

Under the media link I have tons and tons of websites.

Most if not all of them have some freebies for downloading.
Some even give freebie of the month.

Have fun.

Posted: September 11th, 2008, 9:37 am
by Ilovebigcats
I am just talking about pics to put behind the lyrics... here are a few I have already used.

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Posted: September 11th, 2008, 9:51 am
by Ilovebigcats
A few of the slides...

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A constructive suggestion?

Posted: September 11th, 2008, 10:05 am
by Pastor Gary
If I might be permitted one constructive suggestion:

Using ALL CAPS does not make it easier to read -- in fact, it makes it way HARDER to read because all the letters are so close to the same size and shape. Upper and lower case is better... we actually (just a style issue) do all our lyrics in all lower case except words like "Jesus" and "God."

A second point -- and this one gets into a more personal preference thing -- is that I really, REALLY prefer lyrics to be flush left, and broken line-for-line the way they are sung, rather than centered.

But I like the direction you're going with this.

:D

Re: A constructive suggestion?

Posted: September 11th, 2008, 10:29 am
by Ilovebigcats
Pastor Gary wrote:If I might be permitted one constructive suggestion:

Using ALL CAPS does not make it easier to read -- in fact, it makes it way HARDER to read because all the letters are so close to the same size and shape. Upper and lower case is better... we actually (just a style issue) do all our lyrics in all lower case except words like "Jesus" and "God."

A second point -- and this one gets into a more personal preference thing -- is that I really, REALLY prefer lyrics to be flush left, and broken line-for-line the way they are sung, rather than centered.

But I like the direction you're going with this.

:D



I COMPLETELY agree on the caps. I didn't type them out. I am coming in on someone else's work. I was asked to add pics to the background by my team leader from the desires of our pastor. If Ron will permit me to change the caps thing then I will. That is an easy fix. I also like to swap it up with some Tahoma or ComicSans. :lol:

I don't understand what you mean by the second part? Huh?

And.. I am trying to be really conscious of what image goes well with the songs. I hope it isn't a distraction. I am trying to stay away from faces. That drives me nuts on power point. I end up staring at the person to see if I know them instead of paying attention. LOL! I am wondering who these people are that are posing for power point presentations. Then again.. I wonder if it might be cool to get some shots of the membership. No faces... but poses like some of the shots I already have of other people. Know what I mean???

AND.... does the little number thingy used by permission have to go on every slide? I am seeing a hit or miss on that. And then on some songs that have 4 or 5 slides, it is on every slide. Isn't the end of each song sufficient?

I appreciate the input. 8)

Re: A constructive suggestion?

Posted: September 11th, 2008, 11:18 am
by Pastor Gary
Ilovebigcats wrote:I COMPLETELY agree on the caps. I didn't type them out. I am coming in on someone else's work. I was asked to add pics to the background by my team leader from the desires of our pastor. If Ron will permit me to change the caps thing then I will. That is an easy fix. I also like to swap it up with some Tahoma or ComicSans. :lol:


Personally? Skip the font changes. Pick a good, clean, simple font and use it consistently. We use Gill Sans Bold, and have used (in the past) Eras Demi. Tahoma?? No way.

Ilovebigcats wrote:I don't understand what you mean by the second part? Huh?


Let's see if this example helps...

GOOD:

Amazing grace
how sweet the sound
that saved a wretch
like me

I once was lost
but now am found
was blind
but now I see


BAD:

[center]AMAZING GRACE HOW
SWEET THE SOUND THAT
SAVED A WRETCH LIKE ME

I ONCE WAS
LOST BUT NOW AM
FOUND WAS BLIND BUT
NOW I SEE
[/center] <<-- somebody help me -- can't make it center!

...see the difference?

Ilovebigcats wrote:AND.... does the little number thingy used by permission have to go on every slide? I am seeing a hit or miss on that. And then on some songs that have 4 or 5 slides, it is on every slide. Isn't the end of each song sufficient?


Why not open the SLIDE MASTER in PowerPoint and add a tiny line in the bottom corner: "All music performed at CRC covered by CCLI License 12345678" and let that cover it? (We print that disclaimer in our bulletin, too.)

Posted: September 11th, 2008, 12:01 pm
by EagerBeaver
My choices are Helvetica Neue with a clean solid background of one color or a muted background that makes the words the main content focus. An ADHD prone guy like me finds images in the worship songs a bit distracting, IMHO.

Posted: September 11th, 2008, 12:13 pm
by Jennifer Smith
I think Pastor Gary means to bring the text over to start from the left side.. instead of centered in the middle; I wholehearted agree on that one...

and, to break the lines up by the way they are sung, (which, Pastor Gary you didn't do that in your "good" example..tsk tsk! :) If a line is too long to fit, but it is a line of the song,

Then break it up like this:

Amazing grace, how sweet
........the sound, (without the dots)
That saved a wretch like me

But if many of the lines are too long to fit, of course, make the font smaller...
and I agree don't change the font, use the same one consistent for all your slides!

BTW I think the pictures are great... wish I had some to share...

No way

Posted: September 11th, 2008, 12:57 pm
by Pastor Gary
Jennifer Smith wrote:I think Pastor Gary means to bring the text over to start from the left side.. instead of centered in the middle; I wholehearted agree on that one...

Good!

Jennifer Smith wrote:...and, to break the lines up by the way they are sung, (which, Pastor Gary you didn't do that in your "good" example..tsk tsk! :) If a line is too long to fit, but it is a line of the song,

Then break it up like this:

Amazing grace, how sweet
........the sound, (without the dots)
That saved a wretch like me


I like my way better... LOL
And I HATE to see lines indented like that!

Jennifer Smith wrote:But if many of the lines are too long to fit, of course, make the font smaller...

NOOOOOOOoooooooo! Pick a font size and make 100% of the slides consistent. Don't start fudging the sizes: subdivide the lines.

Jennifer Smith wrote:and I agree don't change the font, use the same one consistent for all your slides!

Now you're talking!

Re: No way

Posted: September 11th, 2008, 2:24 pm
by Jennifer Smith
Pastor Gary wrote:
Jennifer Smith wrote:I think Pastor Gary means to bring the text over to start from the left side.. instead of centered in the middle; I wholehearted agree on that one...

Good!

Jennifer Smith wrote:...and, to break the lines up by the way they are sung, (which, Pastor Gary you didn't do that in your "good" example..tsk tsk! :) If a line is too long to fit, but it is a line of the song,

Then break it up like this:

Amazing grace, how sweet
........the sound, (without the dots)
That saved a wretch like me


I like my way better... LOL
And I HATE to see lines indented like that!

Jennifer Smith wrote:But if many of the lines are too long to fit, of course, make the font smaller...

NOOOOOOOoooooooo! Pick a font size and make 100% of the slides consistent. Don't start fudging the sizes: subdivide the lines.



You are not a musician or you would never say that.

Subdivide a musical phrase? Unthinkable...! :)

That is like. putting. a period. in the middle. of a. sentence!


Songs are poetry, prose, set to music... they should not be subdivided!

BTW, I don't like to see indents very often either, that is why font can be adjusted, if it happens a lot in a song...indents are better than SUBDIVIDING...(gasp!) :)

Are we the only ones who care about this stuff?
:) The lady who does most of our overheads at church is even more particular than me... she redoes the ones I make and puts a coordinating scripture on the bottom- she does awesome...)

Re: No way

Posted: September 11th, 2008, 4:54 pm
by Pastor Gary
Jennifer Smith wrote:You are not a musician or you would never say that.

Oh, Jennifer...
I was teaching music theory before you were born!
I have arranged music, written songs, directed choirs at the Assembly, been a worship leader...

...but, okay. :lol:

Posted: September 11th, 2008, 6:09 pm
by Billy n NC
ILovebigcats. there are lots of pics like those on the websites on my site. you would be amazed.

This is the look that I like on our screens.

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Re: No way

Posted: September 12th, 2008, 3:36 am
by Jennifer Smith
Pastor Gary wrote:
Jennifer Smith wrote:You are not a musician or you would never say that.

Oh, Jennifer...
I was teaching music theory before you were born!
I have arranged music, written songs, directed choirs at the Assembly, been a worship leader...

...but, okay. :lol:


Oh. Well. :) :oops:

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree then! :D