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ACORN
Posted: October 8th, 2008, 7:08 am
by Dr. Ron
This group just may be the "achilles heel" for the Obama campaign. They have been "raided " by the feds in several states today.
They signed up the offensive line of the Dallas Cowboys in Nevada. Every swing state is reporting voter fraud today.
This is going to get VERY ugly.....VERY quickly....
Btw, dolfan, scores of lawyers are moving in to FLA to be ready for the lawsuits that are sure to come no matter what the results are......there may be a job for you there.
Posted: October 8th, 2008, 7:54 am
by DeWayneTN
I really hope you are right about the Achilles heel. I haven't been too worried about all this until the past week or so.
Posted: October 8th, 2008, 8:00 am
by crispfin
So a group makes a pathetic attempt at voter fraud and this affects Obama how?

I mean, if this group had registered every new voter in the country I could see how this could be scandalous, but I don't see the Obama/TO in Nevada link.
Posted: October 8th, 2008, 8:00 am
by MacUser
I too am interested in the right outcome.. but nevertheless God is aware and control of it all. Let your heart not be overwhelmed.
Posted: October 8th, 2008, 8:33 am
by Gerald Creasy
crispfinagin wrote:So a group makes a pathetic attempt at voter fraud and this affects Obama how?

I mean, if this group had registered every new voter in the country I could see how this could be scandalous, but I don't see the Obama/TO in Nevada link.
ACORN has been tied to voter fraud repetatively and they are so favored by the Democrats that there were millions of dollars designated to them in the ORIGINAL 700 Billion dollar bail out bill.
If you can get millions of dollars on a Congressional bill designated for you -exactly how pathetic is your power and influence????????????
Posted: October 8th, 2008, 9:06 am
by deb
Posted: October 8th, 2008, 9:16 am
by crispfin
Gerald Creasy wrote:crispfinagin wrote:So a group makes a pathetic attempt at voter fraud and this affects Obama how?

I mean, if this group had registered every new voter in the country I could see how this could be scandalous, but I don't see the Obama/TO in Nevada link.
ACORN has been tied to voter fraud repetatively and they are so favored by the Democrats that there were millions of dollars designated to them in the ORIGINAL 700 Billion dollar bail out bill.
If you can get millions of dollars on a Congressional bill designated for you -exactly how pathetic is your power and influence????????????
Well if their attempts are that cheesy and they can still get millions then I see no reason why Republicans couldn't hope to pull a more complex swindle. See, you have to be looking for opportunity, not just a potential "gotcha".

Posted: October 8th, 2008, 9:24 am
by KBevangelist
I hope you are right Dr. Ron.
Here is a good article on all of this ACORN business
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10082008/po ... htm?page=0
KB
Posted: October 8th, 2008, 1:27 pm
by Billy n NC
Acorn I tied to Obama. He trained people on how to harass the banks into giving mortgages to people who could not otherwise qualify.
But It is also Acorn is in most of the Democrats back pocket.
Even as recent as this Bailout Bill. The Bill that was first proposed had 20% of the profits going to Acorn instead of going to retire the governent debt.
Posted: October 8th, 2008, 3:46 pm
by crispfin
Billy n NC wrote:Acorn I tied to Obama. He trained people on how to harass the banks into giving mortgages to people who could not otherwise qualify.
I've read some things about his ties to them but he denies it.
http://fightthesmears.com/articles/20/acornrumor
He said, they said I guess.

Posted: October 8th, 2008, 3:58 pm
by Gerald Creasy
crispfinagin wrote:Billy n NC wrote:Acorn I tied to Obama. He trained people on how to harass the banks into giving mortgages to people who could not otherwise qualify.
I've read some things about his ties to them but he denies it.
http://fightthesmears.com/articles/20/acornrumorHe said, they said I guess.

Oh, He denied it.
Just like being a member of a church and never hearing anything wrong.
Or a friend of a sixties terrorist from which he received 50 million dollars...but he wasnt a pal...and didnt know who he was.
Posted: October 8th, 2008, 4:46 pm
by Full Quiver
Posted: October 8th, 2008, 5:11 pm
by crispfin
Gerald Creasy wrote:crispfinagin wrote:Billy n NC wrote:Acorn I tied to Obama. He trained people on how to harass the banks into giving mortgages to people who could not otherwise qualify.
I've read some things about his ties to them but he denies it.
http://fightthesmears.com/articles/20/acornrumorHe said, they said I guess.

Oh, He denied it.
Just like being a member of a church and never hearing anything wrong.
Or a friend of a sixties terrorist from which he received 50 million dollars...but he wasnt a pal...and didnt know who he was.
(Sigh) One side makes claims. Other side denies claims. Lot of claims but no proof. People hear claims and believe what they want. The story of this entire campaign from BOTH sides and I no longer care.

Claim??
Posted: October 8th, 2008, 5:35 pm
by Pastor Gary
crispfinagin wrote:Gerald Creasy wrote:crispfinagin wrote:Billy n NC wrote:Acorn I tied to Obama. He trained people on how to harass the banks into giving mortgages to people who could not otherwise qualify.
I've read some things about his ties to them but he denies it.
http://fightthesmears.com/articles/20/acornrumorHe said, they said I guess.

Oh, He denied it.
Just like being a member of a church and never hearing anything wrong.
Or a friend of a sixties terrorist from which he received 50 million dollars...but he wasnt a pal...and didnt know who he was.
(Sigh) One side makes claims. Other side denies claims. Lot of claims but no proof. People hear claims and believe what they want. The story of this entire campaign from BOTH sides and I no longer care.

It's not a "claim" -- it is a simple matter of fact-checkable (is that a word) historical record: Obama trained radicals for ACORN,
acknowledged his connection in an interview -- about the 02:00 mark... he was the Director of Project Vote for ACORN in Chicago.
Vote early, and vote often?
Re: Claim??
Posted: October 9th, 2008, 2:51 am
by crispfin
Pastor Gary wrote:crispfinagin wrote:Gerald Creasy wrote:crispfinagin wrote:Billy n NC wrote:Acorn I tied to Obama. He trained people on how to harass the banks into giving mortgages to people who could not otherwise qualify.
I've read some things about his ties to them but he denies it.
http://fightthesmears.com/articles/20/acornrumorHe said, they said I guess.

Oh, He denied it.
Just like being a member of a church and never hearing anything wrong.
Or a friend of a sixties terrorist from which he received 50 million dollars...but he wasnt a pal...and didnt know who he was.
(Sigh) One side makes claims. Other side denies claims. Lot of claims but no proof. People hear claims and believe what they want. The story of this entire campaign from BOTH sides and I no longer care.

It's not a "claim" -- it is a simple matter of fact-checkable (is that a word) historical record: Obama trained radicals for ACORN,
acknowledged his connection in an interview -- about the 02:00 mark... he was the Director of Project Vote for ACORN in Chicago.
Vote early, and vote often?
The video says that Obama was involved in Project Vote in 1992 in Chicago. So now that Project Vote is implicated in this thing in Nevada that means Obama must be involved because he worked with the group 16 years ago? I mean I know that was the connection Fox News wanted its viewers to make but this just seems to me another example of the my earlier post. People who don't like Obama and don't want him to win are willing to believe the worst they can find about him, true or not. You see the same thing from those who don't want McCain or Palin. It gets their supporters fired up. If ACORN or Project Vote has workers attempting voter fraud, the workers should be charged. If there is evidence the whole organization is involved, they should get the same. End of story from my end.