Jude 2

Please show me "one world governmenrt" or "one world financial system" in the Bible.

Boy, am I of a mixed opinion on this. I don't think what's good for China is good for me. I do believe, though, that interconnectedness in economic matters opens doors to missions, and those doors are met with resistance from the usual places. When I stop and think what God may be doing with all of these developments (and, I don't factor in any sort of end-times stuff into it; I've fairly bowed out of most such considerations), I kind of feel this reluctant need to just sit and wait. I don't like the policy, I don't like the fact that any American leader thinks we have a need for a policy that links us so closely with the rest of the world financially. But, it may be a moot point now. And, I am forced to consider, some, the "what-ifs" from how it may help the overall mission of the gospel message. I'm just too ignorant to weigh it any other way, frankly.

Gerald Creasy wrote:Please show me "one world governmenrt" or "one world financial system" in the Bible.

You have not believed heretofore, neither would you now believe.

pastorables wrote:

Gerald Creasy wrote:Please show me "one world governmenrt" or "one world financial system" in the Bible.

You have not believed heretofore, neither would you now believe.

PUT UP Or SHUT UP.

Gerald Creasy wrote:PUT UP Or SHUT UP.

Whew, it took me a while, but I finally found my copy of the "Gerald Creasy for Dummies".

The actual translation of Gerald's post (as found of on page 642 of said book) is "Hey Ritchie, that sounds interesting. Could you please document that for me. Thanks buddy."

Gerald Creasy wrote:

pastorables wrote:

Gerald Creasy wrote:Please show me "one world governmenrt" or "one world financial system" in the Bible.

You have not believed heretofore, neither would you now believe.

PUT UP Or SHUT UP.

So you would have told Jesus that?!

Gerald, with all seriousness, do you really need scripture to tell you what is happening before our very eyes? That would be like seeing the Berlin Wall coming down and saying, "I will not believe unless you show me in the Word".

Having said that, the things I believe concerning the Word are well documented by many theologians of eschatology. I may disagree with them on a few various points and timelines.

I believe there will be a "man of sin" or Anti-Christ who will have oversight of signing treaties and false treaties with various nations. I do not know who those nations will be. I do believe the EU has something to do with all of that. I also believe that we need to pay close attention to events regarding Israel. The word of God, as well as past and recent history, paints Israel as a key component of God's plan.

I can't tell you exactly how these things will play out on a daily basis and I will not try to convince you to follow my beliefs with regard to end times events. Personally, I have studied enough to know the key things that I should look for concerning my walk with God. You will have to do the same, my friend.

A good site for reference is: www.ischristreturning.com

Blessings,
pa

pastorables wrote:

Gerald Creasy wrote:

pastorables wrote:

Gerald Creasy wrote:Please show me "one world governmenrt" or "one world financial system" in the Bible.

You have not believed heretofore, neither would you now believe.

PUT UP Or SHUT UP.

So you would have told Jesus that?!

Gerald, with all seriousness, do you really need scripture to tell you what is happening before our very eyes? That would be like seeing the Berlin Wall coming down and saying, "I will not believe unless you show me in the Word".

Having said that, the things I believe concerning the Word are well documented by many theologians of eschatology. I may disagree with them on a few various points and timelines.

I believe there will be a "man of sin" or Anti-Christ who will have oversight of signing treaties and false treaties with various nations. I do not know who those nations will be. I do believe the EU has something to do with all of that. I also believe that we need to pay close attention to events regarding Israel. The word of God, as well as past and recent history, paints Israel as a key component of God's plan.

I can't tell you exactly how these things will play out on a daily basis and I will not try to convince you to follow my beliefs with regard to end times events. Personally, I have studied enough to know the key things that I should look for concerning my walk with God. You will have to do the same, my friend.

A good site for reference is: www.ischristreturning.com

Blessings,
pa

That is pretty much how I feel as well pastorables. What is funny about that is when I got saved and was studying the bible the more I read I noticed these things, never being exposed to the end time prophecies type preachers at that time. You can post verse after verse but just as with many issues when people disagree it will not matter.

pastorables wrote:A good site for reference is: www.ischristreturning.com

Did I miss something on that site referenced? it seems to be only videos?

Paully_44 wrote:

pastorables wrote:A good site for reference is: www.ischristreturning.com

Did I miss something on that site referenced? it seems to be only videos?

Their "Are you ready to face God?" quiz also doesn't seem to be working. How else am I gonna know?

pastorables:

Gerald, with all seriousness, do you really need scripture to tell you what is happening before our very eyes? That would be like seeing the Berlin Wall coming down and saying, "I will not believe unless you show me in the Word".

Having said that, the things I believe concerning the Word are well documented by many theologians of eschatology. I may disagree with them on a few various points and timelines.

I believe there will be a "man of sin" or Anti-Christ who will have oversight of signing treaties and false treaties with various nations. I do not know who those nations will be. I do believe the EU has something to do with all of that. I also believe that we need to pay close attention to events regarding Israel. The word of God, as well as past and recent history, paints Israel as a key component of God's plan.

I can't tell you exactly how these things will play out on a daily basis and I will not try to convince you to follow my beliefs with regard to end times events. Personally, I have studied enough to know the key things that I should look for concerning my walk with God. You will have to do the same, my friend.

Well said. I feel that if a person is ready then it want make any different what time line you are in. With the things that are happening today (time line) I feel the need to be more ready then ever before.

Paully_44 wrote:

pastorables wrote:A good site for reference is: www.ischristreturning.com

Did I miss something on that site referenced? it seems to be only videos?

Correct. Although the site isn't finished, the videos prepared have very good thoughts concerning the eschatological timeline.

I require PROOF FROM THE BIBLE.

Not an appeal to "I am more spiritual than you are" which PastorABles has said in so many WORDS.

PASTORABLES is NOT Jesus.

He is a fellow believer.

A fellow believer that appeals to his own sense of superspirituality to intepret scripture.

Many are taken in by those who appeal to esoteric knowledge they can not prove from scripture.

That's the reason Pentecostalism today is heresy ridden bedlam, blind following blind and using the Bible as toilet paper.

Jesus is anything BUT what is found with the Bible AND THATS OKAY!,
END TIMES belief that HAS TO BE READ INTO the Bible is UNQUESTIONABLE.

I'm sick of swallowing bull.

Bull Sugar coated with self-righteous condemnation does not become sweeter.

MrDanger wrote:

Gerald Creasy wrote:PUT UP Or SHUT UP.

Whew, it took me a while, but I finally found my copy of the "Gerald Creasy for Dummies".

The actual translation of Gerald's post (as found of on page 642 of said book) is "Hey Ritchie, that sounds interesting. Could you please document that for me. Thanks buddy."

I said that:

Please show me "one world governmenrt" or "one world financial system" in the Bible.

And all I got was "I am more spiritual than you are, you dolt."

Pastor Ables wrote:So you would have told Jesus that?

Pastor Ables, where did Jesus say there would be a one world financial system and or currency?

If there happens to be a one world currency of financial system that DOES NOT mean the Bible speaks of it. For example, let's say Jesus will return next week. With that hypothetical we would have to conclude that these are the very last days. In the world we find many things that did not exist at the time of Jesus' Earthly ministry such as space travel. Where did Jesus mention such in the Scriptures? He did not. Therefore space travel is not a sign of His return. My point is that just because the world works together economically doesn't mean it has one thing to do with the Lord's return.

Now let me say this, if the Scripture does mention a world economy then I am open to such but where does it say such besides the lack of being able to buy, sell, or trade without the mark of the beast?