Jude 2

In certain contexts it is. BUT within that context of marriage it is blessed and sanctioned by God. What would happen though if the church always warned about the dangers of sexual intercourse without ever conveying the joys of sex within a marriage?

What about pain medicine? Is pain medicine evil? I hope not. The appropriate use of pain medicine has relieved untold suffering for millions. What would happen though if, because of the rampant surge in the number of people who abuse prescription pain medicine...what would happen if we simply condemned pain medicine?

Augustine believed that it was sinful to enjoy sex with your wife. Did you know that? Did you know that a large part of Church doctrine developed from Augustine's teaching? How about this. Did you know Augustine was a gnostic prior to his conversion? They believed that material things were evil and spiritual things were good.

This attitude has permeated the Church in a lot of different ways. I recommend that we teach a balanced approach that avoids the heresy of gnosticism. What would this look like? Well, maybe it would be helpful for the attitude of the next generation not to inherit negative attitudes about material creation that we inherited from our forefathers.

Maybe we should actually talk about the favorable aspects of sexual intercourse in marriage. Sure...let's warn about the abuse of one of God's greatest gifts. Could it be that the negative attitude regarding sex within the Church has created countless problems within marriage? Probably.

What I am suggesting is a balanced approach that rejects gnosticism in favor of a scriptural worldview. This applies to a multitude of issues.

One of the problems with the law, I believe, is that it focussed attention on that which was forbidden. Paul said that he would not have known what it means to covet unless the law had forbidden it.

Maybe the antidote to abuse of God's creation is teaching a balanced perspective that neither villifies nor unnecessarily glorifies material creation. Just a thought.

irthnvesl wrote:In certain contexts it is. BUT within that context of marriage it is blessed and sanctioned by God. What would happen though if the church always warned about the dangers of sexual intercourse without ever conveying the joys of sex within a marriage?

What about pain medicine? Is pain medicine evil? I hope not. The appropriate use of pain medicine has relieved untold suffering for millions. What would happen though if, because of the rampant surge in the number of people who abuse prescription pain medicine...what would happen if we simply condemned pain medicine?

Augustine believed that it was sinful to enjoy sex with your wife. Did you know that? Did you know that a large part of Church doctrine developed from Augustine's teaching? How about this. Did you know Augustine was a gnostic prior to his conversion? They believed that material things were evil and spiritual things were good.

This attitude has permeated the Church in a lot of different ways. I recommend that we teach a balanced approach that avoids the heresy of gnosticism. What would this look like? Well, maybe it would be helpful for the attitude of the next generation not to inherit negative attitudes about material creation that we inherited from our forefathers.

Maybe we should actually talk about the favorable aspects of sexual intercourse in marriage. Sure...let's warn about the abuse of one of God's greatest gifts. Could it be that the negative attitude regarding sex within the Church has created countless problems within marriage? Probably.

What I am suggesting is a balanced approach that rejects gnosticism in favor of a scriptural worldview. This applies to a multitude of issues.

One of the problems with the law, I believe, is that it focussed attention on that which was forbidden. Paul said that he would not have known what it means to covet unless the law had forbidden it.

Maybe the antidote to abuse of God's creation is teaching a balanced perspective that neither villifies nor unnecessarily glorifies material creation. Just a thought.

I can't believe that after your horrible post earlier this morning that you would actually expect someone to answer any more of your doctrinal questions.

Actually brother, I didn't really expect anyone to respond to a scumbag like me. I posted it for informational purposes only.

irthnvesl wrote:In certain contexts it is. BUT within that context of marriage it is blessed and sanctioned by God. What would happen though if the church always warned about the dangers of sexual intercourse without ever conveying the joys of sex within a marriage?

What about pain medicine? Is pain medicine evil? I hope not. The appropriate use of pain medicine has relieved untold suffering for millions. What would happen though if, because of the rampant surge in the number of people who abuse prescription pain medicine...what would happen if we simply condemned pain medicine?

Augustine believed that it was sinful to enjoy sex with your wife. Did you know that? Did you know that a large part of Church doctrine developed from Augustine's teaching? How about this. Did you know Augustine was a gnostic prior to his conversion? They believed that material things were evil and spiritual things were good.

This attitude has permeated the Church in a lot of different ways. I recommend that we teach a balanced approach that avoids the heresy of gnosticism. What would this look like? Well, maybe it would be helpful for the attitude of the next generation not to inherit negative attitudes about material creation that we inherited from our forefathers.

Maybe we should actually talk about the favorable aspects of sexual intercourse in marriage. Sure...let's warn about the abuse of one of God's greatest gifts. Could it be that the negative attitude regarding sex within the Church has created countless problems within marriage? Probably.

What I am suggesting is a balanced approach that rejects gnosticism in favor of a scriptural worldview. This applies to a multitude of issues.

One of the problems with the law, I believe, is that it focussed attention on that which was forbidden. Paul said that he would not have known what it means to covet unless the law had forbidden it.

Maybe the antidote to abuse of God's creation is teaching a balanced perspective that neither villifies nor unnecessarily glorifies material creation. Just a thought.

Hey,.......I think I hear John Lennon's "Imagine" playing somewhere in the background........

Is sexual intercourse sinful?

I hope so, else I've spent 30 years being uptight for nothing.

Gerald Creasy wrote:

Is sexual intercourse sinful?

I hope so, else I've spent 30 years being uptight for nothing.

See you in hell brother.

I pray that it is not.....have never been convicted by the HG for it .....

My son wrote a new song....go to his web site to hear it .....if you dare....

IF Heff Goes to Heaven........not to be sung in p&w.

irthnvesl wrote:

Gerald Creasy wrote:

Is sexual intercourse sinful?

I hope so, else I've spent 30 years being uptight for nothing.

See you in hell brother.

Now does that sound like a christian to talk like that.

Dr. Ron wrote:I pray that it is not.....have never been convicted by the HG for it .....

My son wrote a new song....go to his web site to hear it .....if you dare....

IF Heff Goes to Heaven........not to be sung in p&w.

I saw the video of him singing that on youtube back in the summer. I immediately called many of my friends and told them I had a new favorite song of Regie's and it sure hasn't been sung on American Idol.

Dr. Ron wrote:I pray that it is not.....have never been convicted by the HG for it .....

My son wrote a new song....go to his web site to hear it .....if you dare....

IF Heff Goes to Heaven........not to be sung in p&w.

Got a link?

irthnvesl wrote:

Gerald Creasy wrote:

Is sexual intercourse sinful?

I hope so, else I've spent 30 years being uptight for nothing.

See you in hell brother.

Dudes!

btw.. doesn't SIN in Greek literally translate as missing the mark?
Are you missing it?

MrDanger wrote:

Dr. Ron wrote:I pray that it is not.....have never been convicted by the HG for it .....

My son wrote a new song....go to his web site to hear it .....if you dare....

IF Heff Goes to Heaven........not to be sung in p&w.

I saw the video of him singing that on youtube back in the summer. I immediately called many of my friends and told them I had a new favorite song of Regie's and it sure hasn't been sung on American Idol.

I saw that video too. Hilarious!

irthnvesl wrote:

Gerald Creasy wrote:

Is sexual intercourse sinful?

I hope so, else I've spent 30 years being uptight for nothing.

See you in hell brother.

I wouldn'a said it here, but this is sarcasm not meant to be profane. Don't jump on this, this is nothing. These guys are admitting to what every guy thinks about --- sex. They're joking that for something that isn't sinful (when done in accord with God's marital enjoyment package!) we guys sure do spend a lot of time agonizing in one way or another about it (wanting it, not getting enough of it, using it and having it used or leveraged, all the stuff we all know about it and live from day to day). It was meant tongue in cheeck by GC, and irthnvesl is just being dry witted about it. Please, folks who don't like this type of humor, don't make this little something into a big something else. There's been enough other big something elses to justifiably scrape over.

I stuck my nose in it. Someone, anyone, feel free to tell me to hush.

I love this part of your comment:

God's marital enjoyment package!

I think I'll try that line tonight!

irthnvesl wrote:I love this part of your comment:

God's marital enjoyment package!

I think I'll try that line tonight!

Royalty free, even. Go figure.