Jude 2

Pastor Gary, moderator team--

I respectfully ask that you ban irthnvsl from further communication on Jude 2. I base this request on his attempts to troll, annoy and create antagonistic dialogue between many on this board.

Furthermore, he has registered one confirmed false screen name and is suspected of registering a second alias, and is attempting to flood the forum with inane conversations between alter egos.

He has also publicly slandered and accused Mike Vande of an internet crime that cannot be proven.

Irthnvsl's presence on Jude 2 is dragging the board down. He is attempting to undermine the theological views of those who do not view Christianity the same way that he does, while speaking condescendingly.

The Bible instructs us to mark those among us which cause division and separate ourselves from them. I am asking that you pull the plug on irthnvsl's time here on Jude 2 and allow us all to separate ourselves from an individual who has proven repeatedly to be divisive, accusatory, condescending and borderline insane.

Please send irthnvsl to the land of Phil Hoover, Michael Olszta and Tim Elston. And please do it in the memory of Ray Martin.

Thank you so much for reading this.

Chris Brewer

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Please ban irthnvsl, NT Wright Fan and Wes at once, and please do it for the good of the community here on Jude 2.

is there a rule that you can't have more than one screen name? if so, please point it out, and there are many others that should be banned as well.

personal opinion: if you don't like his posts, don't read them. I believe that he is a brother in Christ. I believe that he has every right to an opinion and expression as anyone else here.

it is too bad that people feel the need to dis-fellowship (read as ban in a public forum) for less than extremely exceptional conditions. some may believe that he is blatantly a "sinner", but I have yet to see that proven by God's Word.

a jar of clay.
I may be cracked, and worn
but God can still use it

a vessel "lacking in honor"
but a vessel that is needed
the handle is available

do we celebrate reformation, and protest? do we really understand the controversy that was happening? I think that sometimes we need to take a step back and examine ourselves before casting a stone. I am.

EagerBeaver wrote:Please ban irthnvsl, NT Wright Fan and Wes at once, and please do it for the good of the community here on Jude 2.

Chris,

It has already been proven that these individuals are not one and the same. They are either co-workers, attend church together, or both.

I would not be in agreement with your suggestion at this time.

Of course, Pastor Gary has the final say in all matters related to his board.

pa

pastorables wrote:

EagerBeaver wrote:Please ban irthnvsl, NT Wright Fan and Wes at once, and please do it for the good of the community here on Jude 2.

Chris,

It has already been proven that these individuals are not one and the same. They are either co-workers, attend church together, or both.

I would not be in agreement with your suggestion at this time.

Of course, Pastor Gary has the final say in all matters related to his board.

pa

Okay, because you said it Pastor ables and I trust you, then I will hold off on the NT Wright and Wes and retract that statement.

However, I still believe Irthnvsl is a highly divisive individual and is detrimental to healthy discussion on Jude 2. His accusation of Mike Vande committing an internet crime is absolutely unbecoming of a Christian and is a serious matter.

Irthnvsl has GOT to GO.

Thank you, Pastor. I'm not quite sure what I've done to provoke such hostility, but it's good to have another Mississippi boy in our corner.

And you are quite right. Irthnvesl, Wes and I are not the same person.

EagerBeaver wrote:His accusation of Mike Vande committing an internet crime is absolutely unbecoming of a Christian and is a serious matter.

Dear friend, could you not tell he was joking. Seriously.

N.T. Wright Fan wrote:

EagerBeaver wrote:His accusation of Mike Vande committing an internet crime is absolutely unbecoming of a Christian and is a serious matter.

Dear friend, could you not tell he was joking. Seriously.

Joking, as he did when he made the post mocking Pastor Gary's plea.

I have a very low tolerance for those who cannot respect others' Christian views that differ from theirs.

RamboPreacher wrote:is there a rule that you can't have more than one screen name? if so, please point it out, and there are many others that should be banned as well.

personal opinion: if you don't like his posts, don't read them. I believe that he is a brother in Christ. I believe that he has every right to an opinion and expression as anyone else here.

it is too bad that people feel the need to dis-fellowship (read as ban in a public forum) for less than extremely exceptional conditions. some may believe that he is blatantly a "sinner", but I have yet to see that proven by God's Word.

a jar of clay.
I may be cracked, and worn
but God can still use it

a vessel "lacking in honor"
but a vessel that is needed
the handle is available

do we celebrate reformation, and protest? do we really understand the controversy that was happening? I think that sometimes we need to take a step back and examine ourselves before casting a stone. I am.

For someone that says he has a pastors heart should see the insult to PG's post. I have nothing against anybody here I just feel there have been some really rude and insulting post lately. A pastor has to care for his sheep and it is not easy. A burden only a pastor can understand, well one shares his heart and was mocked for it. I think that is pretty low.
IRTHNVSL I have nothing against you I just feel your freedom has got the best of ya, you seem to attack those that feel otherwise. That I don't understand........... I am by no means your enemy we just see things differently but I do think that these latest post have been way over the line. We are to show the Love of Christ to each other. We are to be there one for the other. When one is down we are to lift up, not ridicule or make light of the situation. If one hurts we should pray and feel the pain as well.
Again with Jennifer, what was the point? I dont know But I love ya praying for you.

Pastorables, you linked Wes' blog, and there was a link to irthnvesl, but there was only a page about NT Wright, so are we sure there are three people? Is it possible that "Wes" exists, but NT Wright is an alter ego? I mean, with all the patting each other on the back those "two" were doing... a little ridiculous.

Beyond that, I don't care at all for what he alleged about Mike Vande. Completely uncalled for and disrespectful both to Vande and to the rest of us. Thinly veiled threats and other red flag comments have been made.

He is very apologetic in the morning (sober?) and not so much after say, noon.

These are my initial impressions, but if there is a better person than he represents here, let that person stand up. Right now, he gives me the heebie-de-jeebies more than Todd Bentley gives Gerald nausea. Not a good way to introduce oneself.

If not, then I can see why yall are friends because of birds of a feather. I trust Pastorables to be truthful with the knowledge that he has of the subject. But I see the deviousness of Irthnvsl and believe he is capable of setting up those bloggs and myspace and what ever to farther his agenda. Of course I could be wrong, but with him highly possable.

EagerBeaver wrote:

pastorables wrote:

EagerBeaver wrote:Please ban irthnvsl, NT Wright Fan and Wes at once, and please do it for the good of the community here on Jude 2.

Chris,

It has already been proven that these individuals are not one and the same. They are either co-workers, attend church together, or both.

I would not be in agreement with your suggestion at this time.

Of course, Pastor Gary has the final say in all matters related to his board.

pa

Okay, because you said it Pastor ables and I trust you, then I will hold off on the NT Wright and Wes and retract that statement.

However, I still believe Irthnvsl is a highly divisive individual and is detrimental to healthy discussion on Jude 2. His accusation of Mike Vande committing an internet crime is absolutely unbecoming of a Christian and is a serious matter.

Irthnvsl has GOT to GO.

Thanks for the retraction Chris. I don't take what you said personal. It's the internet so how could you have known. With that in mind how could you have known whether Irthnvsl was kidding or serious. Why don't we give each other the benefit of the doubt. Even the new guys on this forum should be given the benefit of the doubt. I've never made a derogatory comment about anyone on here but I have been accused of being someone else and have already tried to be banned.

I hope this is not a clique. I don't think it is however my experience on here has not been very good thus far.

NT Wright Fan is as phony as Pamela Anderson's decolletage. He's the same person as IRTHNVSL.

DaJudge wrote:NT Wright Fan is as phony as Pamela Anderson's decolletage. He's the same person as IRTHNVSL.

If that's so, then how were all three users logged in at once earlier? I believe that NT Wright Fan is Irthnvsl's brother. Search the blogs, my friend. It's in the blogs.

pa