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A Quick Bit of Christmas Trivia
Posted: November 1st, 2008, 5:29 am
by Russell Roberts
Jesus stated that he is the true manna sent from heaven. Did you know that he was born in Bethlehem? The meaning of Bethlehem is "House of Bread". The true bread from heaven was born in the house of bread and placed in a feeding trough! God is so awesome
Posted: November 1st, 2008, 5:33 am
by crispfin
Hmmmm, then who was born at "the house of Pancakes"?

Posted: November 1st, 2008, 5:36 am
by Russell Roberts
crispfinagin wrote:Hmmmm, then who was born at "the house of Pancakes"?

Surely you've heard of the mythical Greek god Pan?
Posted: November 1st, 2008, 5:38 am
by Shellie
Remember the pool of Bethesda? Bethesda means "house of mercy". Just an aside.
Posted: November 1st, 2008, 5:40 am
by Russell Roberts
Shellie wrote:Remember the pool of Bethesda? Bethesda means "house of mercy". Just an aside.
Yep. The "Beth" prefix means "House of.."
Posted: November 1st, 2008, 5:41 am
by crispfin
Shellie wrote:Remember the pool of Bethesda? Bethesda means "house of mercy". Just an aside.
Didn't know that. That's pretty interesting.
Posted: November 1st, 2008, 5:41 am
by Shellie
The "Beth" prefix means "House of.."
Yeah, I know....I just think God is really much cooler than some people give him credit for.
Posted: November 1st, 2008, 5:42 am
by crispfin
irthnvesl wrote:crispfinagin wrote:Hmmmm, then who was born at "the house of Pancakes"?

Surely you've heard of the mythical Greek god Pan?
He does bear a resemblance to some of the customers I've seen there...

Posted: November 1st, 2008, 6:26 am
by Messianic Believer
Here is even some more insight into Who Messiah is and how His talmidim (disciples) understood Him:
Messiah would have told them that He was the true artos (Greek for leavened bread) or lechem (Hebrew for leavened bread). In the context He was teaching them in John 6, they would have immediately recognized the analogy of what He was saying about lechem from the heavens.
The mis-quote that most use is that the word in Shemot (Exodus, literally means Names) was manna. But that word manna does not appear in the Hebrew, only in English translations. In Hebrew, it actually says man-hu. Man-hu is comprised of two Hebrew words and they literally mean "What (or who) is he. Some translate the phrase as "what is it", however like many languages, all Hebrew words are either male or female. The word many translate as "it" is "hu", which means he.
So in Shemot when the Israelites looked out in the morning and said, "What (or Who) is He?" it is entirely possible that they might have actually seen a pre-incarnate Messiah scattering the food (bread) for them on the ground. Since they would not have know who He was, they may have asked each other, "Who is He?". When Messiah Y'shua took bread and broke it and it was served to the people in the instances of the 4000 & 5000 hungry Israelites, and then the "pieces" were collected, was is just a re-enactment of the time in the wilderness when Messiah daily fed the Israelites with the Bread from Heaven, and they went out and collected the pieces.
In the Sinai wilderness, in the Gallilee, and even today, He IS our daily Bread! The Word is still scattered about for all who will just go and gather the pieces to be fed daily.
John 6:31 “Our fathers ate the man-hu in the wilderness, as it has been written, ‘He gave them bread out of the heaven to eat.’ ”
32 Therefore Y'shua said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, Mosheh did not give you the bread out of the heaven, but My Father gives you the true bread out of the heaven.
33 “For the bread of Elohim is He who comes down out of the heaven and gives life to the world.”
34 So they said to Him, “Master, give us this bread always.”
35 And Y'shua said to them, “I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall not get hungry at all, and he who believes in Me shall not get thirsty at all.
Posted: November 1st, 2008, 6:31 am
by Russell Roberts
Messianic Believer, that was interesting. Howcome you don't post more often?
Would you confirm something for me? Did you say that the meaning of the word Exodus is 'names'.
Also, what does the word Genesis and Deuteronomy mean? I have heard that 'Genesis' is actually a name.
Posted: November 1st, 2008, 7:31 am
by Messianic Believer
Here are the English and Hebrew names for the Torah:
Genesis - Beresheet (In the Beginning)
Exodus - Shemot (Names)
Leviticus - Vayikra (And He Called)
Number - Bemidbar (In the Wilderness)
Deuteronomy - Devarim (Words)
I do not post here often for a variety of reason, the least of which is I am very busy 24/7. I also live with constant pain and it wears me down, even with the pain meds.
p.s. I don't celebrate christmas, but the subject was really not about that anyway.

Posted: November 1st, 2008, 7:34 am
by Russell Roberts
Thanks for taking the time to respond.